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Re: politics and economics all up in this bitch

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:05 pm
by Sockgazer
I really don't buy this overall, since the site it's on seems to be so insanely biased against "liberals" in general. It seems like kind of an anal study too.

Also the fact that countries that are far more left leaning that are more similar to the ideologies of american liberals seem to have no problem balancing the books. I would buy that conservatives might have better business sense in some ways since the US has many large multinationals, but I think as with regards overall economics, can you really say countries like Sweden run by social democrats are "inferior" economically?

It seems to me there must be some trick to it, otherwise america really is a bit fucked, to be honest. Relying on people who think gay marriage is a sin and laissez faire capitalism is good for us in the long run to balance your books is not a positive.

Re: politics and economics all up in this bitch

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:18 pm
by McSpunckle
But but but! If gay people can get married, THEY'LL MAKE GAY BABIES.

Re: politics and economics all up in this bitch

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:30 pm
by devnulljp
Sockgazer wrote:I would buy that conservatives might have better business sense in some ways since the US has many large multinationals, but I think as with regards overall economics...
Don't think so -- that's just a marketing slogan. What they're good at is lining their own pockets at the expense of everyone else.

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Re: politics and economics all up in this bitch

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:30 pm
by floating opera
Sockgazer wrote:I really don't buy this overall, since the site it's on seems to be so insanely biased against "liberals" in general. It seems like kind of an anal study too.

Also the fact that countries that are far more left leaning that are more similar to the ideologies of american liberals seem to have no problem balancing the books. I would buy that conservatives might have better business sense in some ways since the US has many large multinationals, but I think as with regards overall economics, can you really say countries like Sweden run by social democrats are "inferior" economically?

It seems to me there must be some trick to it, otherwise america really is a bit fucked, to be honest. Relying on people who think gay marriage is a sin and laissez faire capitalism is good for us in the long run to balance your books is not a positive.


i mean that has definitely been true for a country like Brasil which is really doing well economically right now & has a left-leaning head of state. but in my experience most left-leaning ppl in general don't even have a basic understanding of economics. & to be honest, the one great source to critique of capitalism, Marx, most liberals haven't even read him becuz they are too busy reading bullshit feel-good-liberalism books by Naomi Klein. & i'd dare say that most "liberals" don't even know who Keynes is, let alone have actually read General Theory... or John Kenneth Galbraith or any other number of really great liberal economists. its really sad. & a detriment to many liberal arguements & it cheapens the discourse IMO.

Re: politics and economics all up in this bitch

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 2:57 pm
by Sockgazer
I fucking love the pants off Galbraith.

"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."

"Liberalism is, I think, resurgent. One reason is that more and more people are so painfully aware of the alternative. "

"Under Capitalism; Man Exploits Man. Under Communism, it's just the opposite."

Re: politics and economics all up in this bitch

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 6:53 pm
by Christopher
floating opera wrote: but in my experience most ppl in general don't even have a basic understanding of economics.


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Re: politics and economics all up in this bitch

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:12 pm
by Sockgazer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgJTX4F_ ... r_embedded

God Fox News are such cunts :(

I knew they were bad but some of these examples are crazy. When they're put together like this you see a real pattern.

Re: politics and economics all up in this bitch

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:20 pm
by blicero
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PezlFNTGWv4[/youtube]
all news channels are twats.

Re: politics and economics all up in this bitch

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:35 am
by Sockgazer