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BoatRich wrote: Ceremony and Have Heart posters are both rad and I would love to play through that rig. Is anyone here in a hardcore band? Or are you all mostly on the metal side?

I think a lot of us are into a variety of things.
I can get down with just about anything that gets pretty heavy that isn't crummy nü metal.

Yea there just simply enough people around here to have a decent scene of anything. there is no hardcore bands here and never was. the closest I've done to hardcore is my powerviolence/grind band Kamikaze Pilots that's just me.

Outside of that I'm working on a new band that's pretty much straight up wolfpack/disgust worship. d-beat holocaust.

I used to be very into fast hardcore band in my 20's. SSD, Gang Green, Jerry's Kids, Out Cold., Negative FX and those kinds of bands. I still like bands like Ruiner, Dead Hearts, Killing The Dream and some others that I forget the names of that are floating around on my ipod. Still into powerviolence, some d-beat and some of the newer "fastcore" bands. I never knew what that was until someone told me our band Mental Waste was that, I say we're just fast hardcore and powerviolence influenced . Just another niche term for music that already existed I guess, filtered through a specific generation/scene. I can't keep up with the nuances of sub-genres and scenes anymore, but there's lots of good music. The whole reason why Mental Waste is a recording project is there are no drummers who can play fast d-beats and simple oldschool blast beats here...or any other bands or any kind of scene to play in. Metalcore has been pretty dominant here for the past decade or so, I'm not into it.

Am I doom now?

Yeah I think so

Corey Y wrote:I used to be very into fast hardcore band in my 20's. SSD, Gang Green, Jerry's Kids, Out Cold., Negative FX and those kinds of bands. I still like bands like Ruiner, Dead Hearts, Killing The Dream and some others that I forget the names of that are floating around on my ipod. Still into powerviolence, some d-beat and some of the newer "fastcore" bands. I never knew what that was until someone told me our band Mental Waste was that, I say we're just fast hardcore and powerviolence influenced . Just another niche term for music that already existed I guess, filtered through a specific generation/scene. I can't keep up with the nuances of sub-genres and scenes anymore, but there's lots of good music. The whole reason why Mental Waste is a recording project is there are no drummers who can play fast d-beats and simple oldschool blast beats here...or any other bands or any kind of scene to play in. Metalcore has been pretty dominant here for the past decade or so, I'm not into it.

Ruiner is one of my favorite bands ever, the rest I'm definitely into. I was mostly curious because as much as I love doom, my love of volume and big rigs came from a lot of the weirder hardcore bands having a foot in the door in both genres and doing the whole volume worship thing.

Nice we are kings.


Corey this Mental Waste is fucking great I'd do a split with you with mine, Kamikaze Pilots:
https://kamikazepilot.bandcamp.com/

all I do is single foot action, there is zero use of any sort of double foot action on anything I've done.

Corey Y wrote: Metalcore has been pretty dominant here for the past decade or so, I'm not into it.

makes me sad. You have some serious talent and deserve an awesome band to be in.

BoatRich wrote: Ruiner is one of my favorite bands ever, the rest I'm definitely into. I was mostly curious because as much as I love doom, my love of volume and big rigs came from a lot of the weirder hardcore bands having a foot in the door in both genres and doing the whole volume worship thing.

Yeah, I noticed that started happening years ago with hardcore bands. A lot more hardcore bands with Sound City, Sovtek, Laney and Sunn amps, Emperor cabs and more pedals. More sludgy slowed down intros and bridges in place of breakdowns and all those sorts of things. That's probably the only reason Warp Rig exists, actually. Tony and Brett both come from pretty much strictly hardcore backgrounds they hit me up to play bass for a project because Tony knows me from punk and hardcore bands and knows I've been into and writing slower, downtuned music for a long time.

ShaolinLambKiller wrote:Nice we are kings.


Corey this Mental Waste is fucking great I'd do a split with you with mine, Kamikaze Pilots:
https://kamikazepilot.bandcamp.com/

all I do is single foot action, there is zero use of any sort of double foot action on anything I've done.

Thanks, I'm definitely down to do a split with you man. We haven't done anything since the last album came out, because the guitarist/singer got diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis. He's my close friend and we hang out all the time though, I'll have a talk with him about it. We usually write and record pretty fast once we get going.

AxAxSxS wrote: makes me sad. You have some serious talent and deserve an awesome band to be in.

Thanks John, that's nice of you to say. I'm working towards trying to get a full time live band together. Hopefully by the end of the year, there's been so much stuff going on this year I haven't put that much earnest effort into it. I'm trying to work on my time management a bit, so once the baby gets here I have no excuses for not writing or practicing on a regular basis.

BoatRich wrote:Ceremony and Have Heart posters are both rad and I would love to play through that rig. Is anyone here in a hardcore band? Or are you all mostly on the metal side?

Not in a hardcore band currently, but most of the bands I've ever played in were hardcore and punk oriented. A lot of emotive hardcore, last serious project I played in was super Orchid influenced. (not the one playing scion rock fest)
Was always a shitty punk rock kid before I discovered marijuana, sabbath, and sleep.

doctorpoopenstein420 wrote:

BoatRich wrote:Ceremony and Have Heart posters are both rad and I would love to play through that rig. Is anyone here in a hardcore band? Or are you all mostly on the metal side?

Not in a hardcore band currently, but most of the bands I've ever played in were hardcore and punk oriented. A lot of emotive hardcore, last serious project I played in was super Orchid influenced. (not the one playing scion rock fest)
Was always a shitty punk rock kid before I discovered marijuana, sabbath, and sleep.

Fuck yes love Orchid the skramz band. not the other one.

Corey Y wrote:

ShaolinLambKiller wrote:
Corey this Mental Waste is fucking great I'd do a split with you with mine, Kamikaze Pilots:
https://kamikazepilot.bandcamp.com/

all I do is single foot action, there is zero use of any sort of double foot action on anything I've done.

Thanks, I'm definitely down to do a split with you man. We haven't done anything since the last album came out, because the guitarist/singer got diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis. He's my close friend and we hang out all the time though, I'll have a talk with him about it. We usually write and record pretty fast once we get going.

Fucking nice, I pretty much have free reign to record whenever unless I go out of town for work. But def down to do so.

Ceremony and Have Heart are great bands - however It's not all about aggression haha
One of my main influences is actually elliott smith and I really love his first band heatmiser!

Yeah -- a lot of my musical influence started with heavier and weirder scream bands.

Saetia was a gateway drug into heavy and abrasive.

When you're into heavy music you end up making friends who are into other types of heavy music and that really starts to let you branch in varying directions.

Some of my friends who were into techy metal got really into some sludgy metal core. Early Cave-In and Swarm of the Lotus and shit like that. I started pulling that down. Saw Capsule a few years back and they get into some drone-y riffage and are somewhat techy and then you start branching out into all sorts of shit.

Saetia is great, I tend to like Hot Cross more than them though aside from their last album they put out. If you like Capsule you should give Kid Crash a listen I like them better than Capsule. Dial is also great. their tone is really weird it's like a strange off timed stuff.

never really thought of Cave In as sludgy in anyway, but either way I'm mainly just a fan of Beyond Hypothermia and Until Your Heart Stops.

What's funny when I started listening to heavier stuff it was directly into Suffocation from Smashing Pumpkins, Stone Temple Pilots, Bush. I just was ordering cds from Columbia House and saw the cover for Effigy of the Forgotten and thought that the cover art looked killer and I figured if I hated the band I'd just but the artwork on the wall or something. Havent' looked back since.

Discovered more hardcore and metalcore first from some reviews in metal mags and then just derping around online. started listening to more skramz when I was asked to play bass in a skramz band so that introduced me to more of that and indie rock and playing with a bunch more of those bands.

WeHuntKings wrote:

Am I doom now?

NO...PRS ain't DOOM!

of course i'l joking...thats looks like a killer rig....out of interest whats that baritone PRS like? i've looked at that more than once but never had the chance to play it.