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PumpkinPieces wrote:I was mostly responding to the transphobic fellow I quoted. He doesn't give a fuck about you losing money, he only mentioned it to make what he wanted to say relavant to this thread. He can't stand a trans woman being confident with their body and posting images of it on twitter. And it makes him uncomfortable that she is trying to find an alternate way to live through the internet and game design.

You can hate on Devi all you want for the Console, but don't be a transphobic fuck about it.

I read the comments you mentioned pretty much the same way but had doubts, therefore didn't voice my concerns. Idk, I know I've grown overly sensitive on the matter due, so that's probably me.

Not necessarily -- some people look down on non-trans people posting twitter selfies, too.

I just know that I had to stop following the Devi Ever FX Facebook page because it felt weird to me. Like if a friend died and someone used their corpse as a ventriloquist's dummy.

there is nothing transphobic about just saying what's going on, i.e. "she's started doing (x)"

well, yeah, she did. you're the one turning this into a trans rights issue, not that other person.

adapt wrote:there is nothing transphobic about just saying what's going on, i.e. "she's started doing (x)"

well, yeah, she did. you're the one turning this into a trans rights issue, not that other person.

They posted it and then said that she is falling apart at the seams. Thats the part that concerns me. If being proud of your body and trying to make money is falling apart at the seams then what the fuck is normal?

They did not "just say what was going on" they're implying what she is doing is a sign of bad mental health. And if you think subtle shit like that doesn't matter, then cool. I am still going to point it out. I'll make it an issue if I think it is an issue because whether I am wrong or right it needs to be discussed so someone can learn something. Be it me or you.

still not a trans issue. it would be if they said "she is falling apart at the seams because she is trans." much like someone "falling apart at the seams" isn't a trans issue unless someone inserts that. as in, "that woman is falling apart at the seams" implies somehow that the person's gender is a contributing factor. it's very close to "i had a black guy ask me for money" implies subtle racist overtones (i.e. why did you mention that he was black, etc). but i don't see the word "trans" anywhere in that post.

adapt wrote:still not a trans issue. it would be if they said "she is falling apart at the seams because she is trans." much like someone "falling apart at the seams" isn't a trans issue unless someone inserts that. as in, "that woman is falling apart at the seams" implies somehow that the person's gender is a contributing factor. it's very close to "i had a black guy ask me for money" implies subtle racist overtones (i.e. why did you mention that he was black, etc). but i don't see the word "trans" anywhere in that post.

Good point. I run across a lot of activist shit on tumblr, hard to avoid it no matter who you follow. Maybe I put my own false interpretation upon that persons post. It does seem like they don't approve of what she is doing though. Which is odd, because posting soft core twitter photos of yourself and asking for donations to support becoming a game designer doesn't give me the impression of falling apart at the seams.

Sometimes being uber-PC means jumping to unwarranted conclusions about people and branding them with hateful terms without clear evidence of their motivation. I hope that's not what is happening here. Honestly, if I knew someone who used to own a successful business and they were now trading nude pics for cash online, I would worry about their stability and well-being, no matter their gender.

That said, I don't really know what is going on out there. I don't follow anything devi does anymore because it did become rather depressing, with the string of shutdown websites, dramatic messageboard blow-ups, and abandoned projects. I wish her the best. I really do. She was a nice person to deal with back in the day and I hope everything works out for her in the end.

I could be wrong, but I haven't seen her sell pictures of herself. She is selling her games and music and also asking for donations. She just posts the pictures on a separate nsfw twitter account. Small potatoes but yeah.

Wasn't she selling nude pics in order to raise funds to buy a vagina?

PumpkinPieces wrote:I could be wrong, but I haven't seen her sell pictures of herself. She is selling her games and music and also asking for donations. She just posts the pictures on a separate nsfw twitter account. Small potatoes but yeah.

Ah, I misunderstood that part (though I do recall her offering naked pics of herself in a fundraising bid before. that happened right? or am I mis-remembering?)

woolyh wrote:Wasn't she selling nude pics in order to raise funds to buy a vagina?

It was in one of the video game kick starters I think. It wasn't explicitly "Give me money and I'll send you nudes" but one of the rewards was something along the lines of "Give me money and I'll send you pics of any part of my body". To be honest that coming apart at the seems comment was right on the money. I mean having a decent pedal business, blowing a kickstarter and then selling pics of yourself to fund your next venture fits that bill.

Edit:

I found it, it was part of the vagina indiegogo thing: "$50USD polaroid of part of my body I'll take a polaroid of any part of my body you request, $50 per photo, and I ultimately choose the angle, lighting, etc." and "$100USD polaroid + clothing or prop 'll take a polaroid of any part of my body you request in any outfit, shoe, mud, or with a thing... whatever as long as you also pay for the thing you want to see me with, $100 per photo, and I ultimately choose the angle, lighting, etc."

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/devi ... new-vagina

It would've been funnier if Devi'd an indiegogo to fund a used vagina.

Ah yeah I forgot about that. I remember having a discussion with someone about selling your body for money, more specifically live webcam stuff. I wouldn't do it myself but it doesn't bother me that other people do. Gotta make dat money

ANYWAYS. I am getting even more off topic. I'll be more cautious next time I see something that irritates me.

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