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Re: the DOOM WORKOUT
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:34 pm
by new05002
Harry_Manback wrote:Finished my 10k in 49:19. Was hoping for 48 mins. I bonked hard and had apocalyptic post run shits. I was fighting a cold last week and felt pretty weak.
Damn dem red shorts.

I'm joining cross fit if that's what the scenery is like.
I use a foam roller pretty frequently on my legs and hips. If I don't stretch my IT bands daily my back gets all fucked up.
sometimes it is, sometimes it is not. Most people at CrossFit (atleast here) are women ages 30-45. So you would have to shoot for that kind of crowd.
Re: the DOOM WORKOUT
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:38 pm
by AngryGoldfish
vidret wrote:AngryGoldfish wrote:Make sure you do plenty of really, really slow stretching before AND after workouts, even if it's just pullups. Don't just dive into them after you've woken up.
this is something i've heard differing opinions on. i've actually talked to some experts that say that you WANT to "cold stretch" if your goal is to elongate the muscle, not just relax it etc.
don't have time to dig into it now, i'm super busy with school.
FUCK SCHOOL I WANNA FIGHT AND CLIMB AND LIFT WEIGHTSTS AND RUN FAST AND HAVE LOTS OF SEX PREFERRABLY WITH A GIRL THAT CAN WIN AGAINST ME IN A GRAPPLING MATCH AND I WANNA GO FAST ON MY MOTORCYCLE
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But if you're injured? I like to "cold stretch" (I didn't know it had a name) when I'm lifting medium weights in a form I am used to and can handle, like a pushup. But if I had an injury or if I was lifting heavy weight in an exercise I have yet to perfect, like a Deadlift, then I'd definitely feel more comfortable warming up for half an hour. I guess it's not just a matter of warming up the muscles. It's kind of a mental thing. You're adjusting yourself to that zone, preparing yourself. You know what I mean, of course you do. I don't mean to tell you what's what because I know that can be silly to someone who is teaching
us. I think verbalizing these thoughts of mine is confirmation-seeking rather than teaching.
Re: the DOOM WORKOUT
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:26 am
by new05002
interesting vid, thanks for that info. Seems there is lots of discussion about stretching out there that is often kind of confusing/contradictory.
Re: the DOOM WORKOUT
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:58 pm
by Harry_Manback
vidret wrote:you should take a second to google around on your IT band problems, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it's not really what you think it is, since the IT bands are barely stretchable even if I know i've given the same advice myself to people before - it's probably something else benefiting from the stretching - and if it is you should find out and focus on what would be the best solution for that particular problem

Fair point actually - I incorporated the IT band rolling with several other hip flexor stretches, so it could be a combination of everything/anything. All I know is if I don't go through an almost daily stretch when working out my back gets jacked up!
Re: the DOOM WORKOUT
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:26 pm
by AngryGoldfish
vidret wrote:i think it was I who misread your comment actually, i thought you meant he wasn't supposed to dive into stretching after waking up - my bad!

you shouldn't try to elongate the muscles you're activating with stretching before an exercise, but warming them up is a great idea.
For example: stretching your calves and hip flexor to make them relax and if possible make them longer, even if for a while, before doing squats is a great idea. stretching your ass or quads (to some extent this may be the hip flexor) isn't a good idea because that's what you want to use, like making a rubber band longer and then hoping for it to still be elastic.
Ahh, I see. I didn't know that. Good advice.
vidret wrote:it's a weird example, since the hip flexors are partially quads, but yeah look at it this way for when doing the squat:
if you stretch your calves your back won't ass-tilt/lose it's proper form as early because your calves are elongated
if you stretch your hip flexors you'll activate your ass better since your hip flexors won't be working against it
I had one client who i always put in the leg press before we got started, his toes on the edge just sitting there for a while with some weight on and stretching the calves, completely noticeable difference before he lost his back on his way down in the squat.
stretching for warming up should be more dynamic, i think that's been noted by everyone on these pages somewhere

Harry_Manback wrote:Finished my 10k in 49:19. Was hoping for 48 mins. I bonked hard and had apocalyptic post run shits. I was fighting a cold last week and felt pretty weak.
Damn dem red shorts.

I'm joining cross fit if that's what the scenery is like.
I use a foam roller pretty frequently on my legs and hips. If I don't stretch my IT bands daily my back gets all fucked up.
almost there man haha, that's frustrating though. nice job, i think you know you've got it so it should be alright though, right - still frustrating

you should take a second to google around on your IT band problems, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it's not really what you think it is, since the IT bands are barely stretchable even if I know i've given the same advice myself to people before - it's probably something else benefiting from the stretching - and if it is you should find out and focus on what would be the best solution for that particular problem

Damn, you would be fucking awesome as a personal trainer (I don't know if you like being called that or not

). It's these little details that the rest of us don't have the experience to procure in each given situation or understand in each given situation. I know basic things and can troubleshoot certain scenarios, but I don't know enough. The theory really is fascinating to me, even more so than the actual act of lifting weights and keeping fit.
And on that point, I think I've theorized something: I really need to be in a community environment to work at my best. Otherwise I go too easy on myself or just simply never get off the computer and do anything. I thought about working on some sprinting today. The road outside my house is perfect for it. A car passes every hour, roughly, depending on the time of day, and it's flat (though I used to do up hill training when I was a cross-country runner). But I never did it. I just slapped the PS3 on and finished Hitman.

Re: the DOOM WORKOUT
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:28 pm
by new05002
throwing down some push ups in lab today. Kinda slow since one guy is leaving after completing his PhD.
Re: the DOOM WORKOUT
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:28 pm
by AngryGoldfish
A whiteboard is a good idea.
One goal of losing weight isn't going too badly. I'm down from almost 14 stone to 13 stone. I want to be 12. Then I'll start trying to bring that weight back up with muscle.
Re: the DOOM WORKOUT
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:01 pm
by Harry_Manback
Alright, did some dead lifts today and felt pretty good. Really focused on form and low reps (thanks again for the tips guys). No back pain or bloody shins.
Warm up - 135 x 10 (focused on 2-step movements per Vid's recommendation)
2 sets of 5 at 225 lbs
Also bumped my bench press up 20 lbs to 245, 3 x 5. Just wanted to see if I could do it (been sitting at 225 for ever). I usually do 8-10 reps so I'll have to work up to that.
Re: the DOOM WORKOUT
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:08 pm
by SpaceFlunky
vidret wrote:i think it was I who misread your comment actually, i thought you meant he wasn't supposed to dive into stretching after waking up - my bad!
you shouldn't try to elongate the muscles you're activating with stretching before an exercise, but warming them up is a great idea. For example: stretching your calves and hip flexor to make them relax and if possible make them longer, even if for a while, before doing squats is a great idea. stretching your ass or quads (to some extent this may be the hip flexor) isn't a good idea because that's what you want to use, like making a rubber band longer and then hoping for it to still be elastic.
Yes! this is exactly the kind of stretching i do before squats. Great advice!
For some reason I've hit a plateau on my squats. I am stuck on 185lbs for 5x5. I tried the weight for 2 sessions and failed towards the end of the 5x5 sets. I have deloaded to 155lbs and started over twice and i can not get past 185lbs. I do not know if its something mental now or what. I had hit a stopping point when i first hit 160 which i deloaded to 135 and then broke my plateau til now.
Ive also been stuck at 90lbs on the over head press for like 2 months. haha.
Re: the DOOM WORKOUT
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:50 pm
by SpaceFlunky
i might do some short vids and post them up so you can check my form, if you dont mind.
Re: the DOOM WORKOUT
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:47 pm
by new05002
Today's Workout
Warmup
3 rounds
Round 1:
10 Step Ups
10 Wall Scapula Sliders
10 Right Hand KB Swings (25 lb)
Round 2:
10 Box Jumps with step downs
10 Hang Shoulder Shrugs
10 Left Hand KB Swings (25 lb)
Round 3:
10 Box Jumps
10 Ring Rows
10 KB swings (25 lb)
WOD:
10 Power Snatch
20 Pull Ups
30 Box Jumps
40 KB Swings
30 Box Jumps
20 Pull Ups
10 Power Snatch
15 min time cap
Did snatches at 95 lb, 45 lb KB swings, 20" box jumps, unassisted pull ups (kipping)
I finished 3-5 power snatches before the time limit then pushed the last reps after the time cap ended. The pull ups sucked a ton on the way down the ladder. Mixed step downs and box jumps on the second round of box jumps. Feeling some lower back pain during some movements and so I am going to take some time off this week. See how it feels on Sunday.
Re: the DOOM WORKOUT
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:03 pm
by AngryGoldfish
Your workouts are really, really quick. Is that the way CrossFit works in general?
Re: the DOOM WORKOUT
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:27 pm
by new05002
Yes they are somewhere between 15-35 min long (not counting the warm up), high intensity. Usually how that works. We do 1 hour blocks for the entire thing (warm up, workout, cool down). This particular one was pretty hard, I was on the ground afterwards for a few minutes just breathing deeply.
Re: the DOOM WORKOUT
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:53 pm
by The Wood Wizard
Havent done anything for almost a week and I feel like all my gains are disappearing, as fast as the muscle came its going just as quick haha. IM not to worried. Pains not as bad now hopefully will be gone within another week. Hurts if i press on my upper chest under my clavicle and shoots into my armpit. I think its either a pulled muscle or Some type of nerve pinch thing. Just stretching still. THis shits fucking up my plan to be a ninja yo.
Re: the DOOM WORKOUT
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:08 pm
by new05002
I feel ya TJ, in my head I really wanna do a Saturday workout but the type of back pain in my lower left side worries me enough to take some time off to let it heal. Might just skip Saturday and do the weightlifting training class since it is low intensity and really just works on form.