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Re: Post Your Rig: Doom Edition

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:16 pm
by OrangeSunn
AngryGoldfish wrote:
OrangeSunn wrote:I know, right?! Lol. They get all clever with the symbols and go fuck it right up. :poke:
Fifty years from now snobs will be all like, "the backwards bass note is the best version, it totally beats the standard version, more bass."
We can start the folklore right here, for generations to come. Wait...I think we already did.

Re: Post Your Rig: Doom Edition

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:04 pm
by OrangeSunn
nailwalker wrote:I had to sell my entire rig due to financial problems quite awhile ago (load of pedals, an old 5150 block letter, 2x1960's, general shit) but kept my Axe Fx Ultra (haven't seen one around here, essentially a high-er end guitar/cab/pedal modeler) for recording and playing through headphones.

Since DI seems to be a sin around here, I thought it would be cool to doom out a bit (or at least to the best of my ability) without a real amp at all. But god knows I miss tubes... have a deal buying an Orange TH100 pending and I couldn't be more stoked.

Anyways, https://soundcloud.com/mason-vickers/aadgbe
Nice track.

Wise choice to keep the AxeFx. I remember all too well how it feels to be without equipment. Had my entire rig stolen and pawned off by a "friend" 6 yrs ago. Which wasn't much at the time. When I finally began the hunt for new gear, the TH series was high on that list. There were a bunch deals on the TH200 at the time compared to the MSRP.

Re: Post Your Rig: Doom Edition

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:07 pm
by Timm Grimm
Yeah the looks are growing on me. I had a Korean made NS-20004. I liked it but it was a nasty blue. There's an emerald Green one locally that looks pretty cool.

(I thought I posted that original question in the doom room. Well shucks.)

Re: Post Your Rig: Doom Edition

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:55 am
by whiskey_face
Ancient Astronaught wrote:
doctorpoopenstein420 wrote:I really fucking dig the way Spectors play and sound. Feel buttery as hell. Super comfy necks. With that said, I think they're ugly as a motherfucker, but hey that's just me.
/\ this

+999

Re: Post Your Rig: Doom Edition

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:15 am
by Timm Grimm
I have stuff to add some I'm gonna just post it in the room.

Re: Post Your Rig: Doom Edition

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:13 am
by dazedbyday
nailwalker wrote:I had to sell my entire rig due to financial problems quite awhile ago (load of pedals, an old 5150 block letter, 2x1960's, general shit) but kept my Axe Fx Ultra (haven't seen one around here, essentially a high-er end guitar/cab/pedal modeler) for recording and playing through headphones.

Since DI seems to be a sin around here, I thought it would be cool to doom out a bit (or at least to the best of my ability) without a real amp at all. But god knows I miss tubes... have a deal buying an Orange TH100 pending and I couldn't be more stoked.

Anyways, https://soundcloud.com/mason-vickers/aadgbe
I think the axe fx is pretty cool. I hope to get one for the studio I work in just to have the variety at my finger tips even if it won't make it to the final recording. If you are interested, it might be cool to look towards getting a tube power amp and running the axe fx into that. I was considering that for a while for a really versatile set up. You get all the crazy sounds out of the axe fx but the tube power section. Kinda like the old musicman amps that had solid state pres but tube power sections. The biggest problem is finding a good tube power section.

Re: Post Your Rig: Doom Edition

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:19 am
by nailwalker
dazedbyday wrote:
nailwalker wrote:I had to sell my entire rig due to financial problems quite awhile ago (load of pedals, an old 5150 block letter, 2x1960's, general shit) but kept my Axe Fx Ultra (haven't seen one around here, essentially a high-er end guitar/cab/pedal modeler) for recording and playing through headphones.

Since DI seems to be a sin around here, I thought it would be cool to doom out a bit (or at least to the best of my ability) without a real amp at all. But god knows I miss tubes... have a deal buying an Orange TH100 pending and I couldn't be more stoked.

Anyways, https://soundcloud.com/mason-vickers/aadgbe
I think the axe fx is pretty cool. I hope to get one for the studio I work in just to have the variety at my finger tips even if it won't make it to the final recording. If you are interested, it might be cool to look towards getting a tube power amp and running the axe fx into that. I was considering that for a while for a really versatile set up. You get all the crazy sounds out of the axe fx but the tube power section. Kinda like the old musicman amps that had solid state pres but tube power sections. The biggest problem is finding a good tube power section.
This is what I'm running as a head currently, I have an old Carvin TS100 running as a power amp. While it sounds kickass and carrying around a midi board vs. pedals is awesome in theory, there's a certain nostalgia and feeling lacking not running an actual head. However, this rig is super fucking practical. Being able to run dual amps for gain with shit tons of delay/modulation and cut to a fender twin with a different set of boxes with one single step is a luxury I wish I didn't know.

Re: Post Your Rig: Doom Edition

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:26 pm
by AxAxSxS
I think the modeling stuff sounds truly terrible at gig volume running into a pa. That said, if you have a tube power section and a decent cab, that might fix things.

Re: Post Your Rig: Doom Edition

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:11 pm
by AngryGoldfish
dazedbyday wrote:
nailwalker wrote:I had to sell my entire rig due to financial problems quite awhile ago (load of pedals, an old 5150 block letter, 2x1960's, general shit) but kept my Axe Fx Ultra (haven't seen one around here, essentially a high-er end guitar/cab/pedal modeler) for recording and playing through headphones.

Since DI seems to be a sin around here, I thought it would be cool to doom out a bit (or at least to the best of my ability) without a real amp at all. But god knows I miss tubes... have a deal buying an Orange TH100 pending and I couldn't be more stoked.

Anyways, https://soundcloud.com/mason-vickers/aadgbe
I think the axe fx is pretty cool. I hope to get one for the studio I work in just to have the variety at my finger tips even if it won't make it to the final recording. If you are interested, it might be cool to look towards getting a tube power amp and running the axe fx into that. I was considering that for a while for a really versatile set up. You get all the crazy sounds out of the axe fx but the tube power section. Kinda like the old musicman amps that had solid state pres but tube power sections. The biggest problem is finding a good tube power section.
There are quite a few really good tube power amps that you can find. Fryette make some excellent ones that have been perennial favourites with digital preamp users. Also, aren't Fractal making a tube Axe-FX?

Re: Post Your Rig: Doom Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:49 am
by samzadgan
I'm not sure about the Axe-FX stuff...i read somewhere that they're doing something with Tubes as well...also ready recently that Metallica is switching to Axe-FX for all their tours. I think tonally they are fine, especially put through a nice power amp...my main issue is one of interface and aesthetic...i don't like digital displays, patches, programming and buttons...i prefer knobs...but that has nothing to do with how it sounds or performs.

talking abotu knobs...i did a quick demo of the new Marshall head with the Quantum Mystic...relatively low volume, but still sounds great.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AvtYXRJVho[/youtube]

Re: Post Your Rig: Doom Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:21 pm
by spawnofthesith
^Awesomeness. But hey guys, lets keep up the internet myth of 900s sucking so I can still grab one for cheap at some point

Re: Post Your Rig: Doom Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:47 pm
by louderthangod
It's no myth. I'm sure someone can coax some decent tone out of them but they've got a bad reputation because when they came out it made no sense to make an amp considerably worse than everything else they had released. I also think people are just more accepting of mediocre tone today especially when it comes to tube distortion. The vast majority of people use their amp as a clean machine and pedals for dirt where the differences in amps good tube v bad tube and even tube v solid state are far less noticeable especially because distortion pedals (and fuzz variety) has gotten a lot better lately.

Re: Post Your Rig: Doom Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:07 pm
by Krosis
I would play a JCM900 but I wouldn't pay too much for one.

Re: Post Your Rig: Doom Edition

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:26 pm
by AngryGoldfish
samzadgan wrote:I'm not sure about the Axe-FX stuff...i read somewhere that they're doing something with Tubes as well...also ready recently that Metallica is switching to Axe-FX for all their tours. I think tonally they are fine, especially put through a nice power amp...my main issue is one of interface and aesthetic...i don't like digital displays, patches, programming and buttons...i prefer knobs...but that has nothing to do with how it sounds or performs.

talking abotu knobs...i did a quick demo of the new Marshall head with the Quantum Mystic...relatively low volume, but still sounds great.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AvtYXRJVho[/youtube]
Someone was selling the Axe-FX tube version prototype on eBay a few days ago. The last time I checked it was well over €6000.

I am in the same mindset as you. For amps, I'm a set-it-and-forget-it player. Pedals, I like to tweak, but amps I like to have a few different 'go-to' settings for my different guitars and that's it. I much prefer having the option to mess with the controls, though, so that's why my Dunwich will have quite a complex front panel for a low wattage combo.

I'd love to try both the Axe-FX II and the Kemper Profiler; see what all the hubbub is about.
louderthangod wrote:It's no myth. I'm sure someone can coax some decent tone out of them but they've got a bad reputation because when they came out it made no sense to make an amp considerably worse than everything else they had released. I also think people are just more accepting of mediocre tone today especially when it comes to tube distortion. The vast majority of people use their amp as a clean machine and pedals for dirt where the differences in amps good tube v bad tube and even tube v solid state are far less noticeable especially because distortion pedals (and fuzz variety) has gotten a lot better lately.
This.

The 900 is not a bad amp at all, it's just not what put Marshall on the map. The SLX gain side is a little more refined, but samzadgan makes his 900 sound like a beast. That's the first Quantum Mystic demo I've heard that makes me want to buy the pedal. It sounds so fat and burly!

Re: Post Your Rig: Doom Edition

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:16 am
by samzadgan
Thanks Dan!

I agree most amp are ok pedal platforms...there are obvious slight differences but generally most amps work ok. But some amp and pedal combinations work better than others. For example this 900 sounds great with the Quantum Mystic but not so great with the fuzz pedals i have and my jet city is the opposite, which is fine as its a 2 channel amp and the onboard dirt channel is great.