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Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:08 pm
by AngryGoldfish
You're our official Jazzmaster aficionado, what would say are the drawbacks and positives of a Jazzmaster?

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:09 pm
by AxAxSxS
Would be really easy to alter the pickguard, and enlarge the route for whatever you want to put in.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:55 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
AngryGoldfish wrote:You're our official Jazzmaster aficionado, what would say are the drawbacks and positives of a Jazzmaster?
If you get a vintage style Jazzmaster, ie; further back trem, floating bridge, and 7.25" fretboard radius. Your going to have a hell of a time turning it into a doom machine. Your best bet would be to get a classic player which has the closer trem which increases sustain, a fixed bridge which adds stability and less tuning issues plus it's easier to get lower action with thicker strings without shimming the neck, and the fretboard radius is more chord and lead run friendly and doesn't require as much of an arch in your playing hand. On the upside it's stock pickups are voiced closer to a p90 than a strat pickup. They can be awesome doom machines as they absolutely love fuzz but the one downside is sustain isn't anywhere near a mahogany bodied set neck guitar, but the trade off is better note definition and really cool ghost notes from the trem.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:58 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
AxAxSxS wrote:Would be really easy to alter the pickguard, and enlarge the route for whatever you want to put in.
The Jazzmaster pickup routes are just about the biggest out there, a humbucker or p90 has plenty of room, all you need is a new pickguard routed for them. And pickguardian can do just about any pickup route on any jazzie pickguard.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:01 pm
by AxAxSxS
Is it the breaking angle at the bridge that causes the problem? What if you routed the body in the bridge trem area like a rickenbacker to create more of an angle? Worth attempting?

Cool that all you would need is a new pickguard. That makes it very easy.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:31 pm
by AngryGoldfish
Thanks, Skip. I know exactly what you mean and from the reading I've been doing the last week I think most people would agree with your sentiments.

What do you think to the PureSalem Woodsoul? It pretty much 'fixes' all that you mentioned. I know you haven't played it and it's a brand-new instrument, but I'd still like to hear your opinions.

http://www.puresalemguitars.com/models/woodsoul/

And Axe, yeah, the break angle is what I hear people say decreases sustain. A lot of folks on offset forums like offsetguitars.com and shortscale.org actually love Jazzmasters for this very reason.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:37 pm
by AxAxSxS
I kinda want to pick up beater and try this. Add a routed out angled area like this-

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Maybe a little larger area or start the angle closer to the bridge.
Then mount the trem in that. I know nothing about that setup, anyone know how deep the recess for the trem needs to be? I'm wondering how much of an angle you could do before it runs out of room.
Could essentially become a new body style with a few other tweaks.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:49 pm
by Iommic Pope
Neck through would require the neck be angled back anyhow, then I'd opt for a tune o matic with string through. You could also angle the headstock back. Talking custom now, but that's my preferred setup for any guit.
Maybe you should talk to TJ, Angry?
Maybe I should.....

Those are some fancy ayahusca, Vid!

Baha! Summit meets the peacemakers.

I think I read about you experience, Fuzzy. Blows goats bud.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:59 pm
by D.o.S.
AxAxSxS wrote:Nice Moose! Your's looks to be as clean as mine! Maybe it's the metal used but there is basically no corrosion in mine.

DOS! NO! You are an angry rabbit! Now you are a confused Mexican?

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Gotta switch it up every 3,000 posts or so.

...

Wayyyyy too many posts.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:41 pm
by ryan summit
Iommic Pope wrote: Baha! Summit meets the peacemakers.
.
i grew up in jersey
not far from giants stadium/meadowlands
spent a few weekends in the parking lot
phish and grateful dead shows
i was a budding young drug addict
it was like a psychadelic flea market
no matter how far out i got
that music still fucking sucked

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:09 pm
by AxAxSxS
God I hated Phish. I had tons of hippie friends back in the day and one basically made me go to a phish show saying it was something you had to see live, paid for my ticket and everything. Even dosed me saying it would help me enjoy it. Worst concert I ever went to. It was bad. Really bad. the jumping on trampolines was retarded but it became humorously awfuller when phishdude started his vacuum cleaner solo. 10 minutes of amplified phish pharts and the crowd was eating it up. that might have been the moment when I lost faith in humanity at large.

Thank god for folks like the lot of you. Gives me hope.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:34 pm
by ryan summit
ohh
your poor sub conscious
open a door to your mind
annd let that bullshit come in

bag it,tag it
sell it to the butcher at the sto-o-ore
oy vey
shoot me for remembering those words
but yeah
ive been tainted as well

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:11 pm
by deathmonkey
Ancient Astronaught wrote:I believe its 30" bass vi scale, and yes its a warmoth build. I looked into it a while ago but forgot all the details.
Jazzmaster, Warmoth build, or a plank of wood.... Stavros' mustache was the heart and soul of that tone.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:41 pm
by AxAxSxS
ryan summit wrote:ohh
your poor sub conscious
open a door to your mind
annd let that bullshit come in

bag it,tag it
sell it to the butcher at the sto-o-ore
oy vey
shoot me for remembering those words
but yeah
ive been tainted as well
Or how about the genious of
" The wheels on your car
are the things
that make contact with the road"

Wow. Really? No shit! thats fucking amazing guys. How the hell do you think this shit up? :facepalm:

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:42 pm
by AxAxSxS
I'm sorry guys, will try to never bring that shit up here again. I think I was traumatized by its badness. :barf: