The Doom Room: ILF Edition

[crohny]

Well of course swapping tube sis easier, but if that doesn't get the desired clean tone he wants isn't it possible to alter the gain stages in the circuit? Just curious.

[new05002]

The amp was already tuned for less gain and thus if u stuck with 12ax7s little else can be done to lower the gain

[louderthangod]

So I've mentioned this before on a different forum and I think with the toneprint editor (from TC electronics) and the H9 (from Eventide) coming out it makes the idea more relevant. People want versatility in their effects as well as deep editing powers to really dial in tones. As digital effects gain more acceptance, digital dirt is still a long ways off. So here's my idea...I'm not an electronics guy so if this doesn't exist, then by all means, I hope someone with technical skill takes it and can do something with it.

What if you had a pedal that internally had digital processors as well as banks of many various Si and Ge transistors of all different types (even 4558's) so that you could more accurately model (as well as creating new designs) different dirt pedals and then run that digitally powered processing through actual transistors so it still had the real feel and tones of analog pedals while still being able to save presets. I know this would have to be an expensive pedal and fairly large but with the popularity of Strymon and Eventide pedals I think people would be willing to spend $500+ on a large pedal that cold replace their muff, fuzz face, D*A*M's as well as creating a few unique tones. Through in pre-post routing for wah pedal guys and deep, digital editing and routing options through phone/tablet apps and maybe let users download patches from each other and I think it would be a hit.

So, is there anything like this already out there, maybe on a small scale? If not, what do you think of the idea and who would you like to see build it? I think a collaboration of Strymon and D*A*M would be awesome....Nick, perhaps you'd want to tackle this?

[new05002]

while it sounds kool, I do not have much interest in doing digital work. You need to invest a lot of time into doing coding and algorithm writing. Not my strong point.

you certainly can emulate the transfer functions of different transistors. It just becomes complex to get very good emulations

[Ancient Astronaught]

In light of me picking up 2 cab's this weekend I'm putting a few pedals on the chopping block to help offset the cost. I've got a black on black BOE Mantra and a black on green EA Supercollider v2 i'm gonna give dibs to the doom room on. 106$ each shipped in the con-us, and I'll post pics tonight. Get at me if your interested.

[AxAxSxS]

Boss GT-10

[crohny]

In light of me picking up 2 cab's this weekend I'm putting a few pedals on the chopping block to help offset the cost. I've got a black on black BOE Mantra and a black on green EA Supercollider v2 i'm gonna give dibs to the doom room on. 106$ each shipped in the con-us, and I'll post pics tonight. Get at me if your interested.

Fuck, I have been wanting to try/buy both of those. <Also digging the grumpy face

[LOCOPELAND]

In light of me picking up 2 cab's this weekend I'm putting a few pedals on the chopping block to help offset the cost. I've got a black on black BOE Mantra and a black on green EA Supercollider v2 i'm gonna give dibs to the doom room on. 106$ each shipped in the con-us, and I'll post pics tonight. Get at me if your interested.

Ugh...I want...but need to save.

[Ancient Astronaught]

Fuck, I have been wanting to try/buy both of those. <Also digging the grumpy face

I love them both but with the big spider on board and the bass OCD coming in eventually both of these are just gonna sit, I know I'm gonna mis them but I all ready have 4 OD's and like 3 big muffs and or varients. and the emoticons here are awesome.

Ugh...I want...but need to save.

yes you do, and no you dont.... you know you dont.... you know you want to buy these.....

[crohny]

We can get really bromosexual now.

[Ancient Astronaught]

:group: We can get really bromosexual now.

Yes, yes we can with all of our gnomies

[crohny]

So I've mentioned this before on a different forum and I think with the toneprint editor (from TC electronics) and the H9 (from Eventide) coming out it makes the idea more relevant. People want versatility in their effects as well as deep editing powers to really dial in tones. As digital effects gain more acceptance, digital dirt is still a long ways off. So here's my idea...I'm not an electronics guy so if this doesn't exist, then by all means, I hope someone with technical skill takes it and can do something with it.

What if you had a pedal that internally had digital processors as well as banks of many various Si and Ge transistors of all different types (even 4558's) so that you could more accurately model (as well as creating new designs) different dirt pedals and then run that digitally powered processing through actual transistors so it still had the real feel and tones of analog pedals while still being able to save presets. I know this would have to be an expensive pedal and fairly large but with the popularity of Strymon and Eventide pedals I think people would be willing to spend $500+ on a large pedal that cold replace their muff, fuzz face, D*A*M's as well as creating a few unique tones. Through in pre-post routing for wah pedal guys and deep, digital editing and routing options through phone/tablet apps and maybe let users download patches from each other and I think it would be a hit.

So, is there anything like this already out there, maybe on a small scale? If not, what do you think of the idea and who would you like to see build it? I think a collaboration of Strymon and D*A*M would be awesome....Nick, perhaps you'd want to tackle this?

Takes all the fun out of buying fuzz pedals.

[SpaceFlunky]

Fu Manchu just announced a gig in dallas in april. Im gonna have to make the drive down there.

[Ancient Astronaught]

Takes all the fun out of buying fuzz pedals.

BTW, a google image search of Hattie Watson was definitely a worthwhile investment of 15 minutes....

[LOCOPELAND]

Fuck, I have been wanting to try/buy both of those. <Also digging the grumpy face

I love them both but with the big spider on board and the bass OCD coming in eventually both of these are just gonna sit, I know I'm gonna mis them but I all ready have 4 OD's and like 3 big muffs and or varients. and the emoticons here are awesome.

Ugh...I want...but need to save.

yes you do, and no you dont.... you know you dont.... you know you want to buy these.....

If I didn't just buy a HE El Oso, I'd totally consider the Supercollider. I've got the dough, I just need to hold onto it until I find out how much it's gonna cost to fix my 18".