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Re: Depression rears it's ugly head again
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:50 pm
by popvulture
It's ok, man—we all slip. You can't beat yourself up about it, rather just get back to doing your best, the whole one day at a time thing.
I quit drinking five years ago but have slipped a couple times. Never was anything too bad, but just like you I managed to give myself a pretty hard time about it... in the end though, really not worth it. The fact that you see it, give a shit about it, and make an effort to keep yourself in the best state you can be is way more than a lot of people do. Don't lose sight of the positive

Re: Depression rears it's ugly head again
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:54 pm
by waltdogg
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Re: Depression rears it's ugly head again
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:14 pm
by dubkitty
i've had to withdraw from benzos twice. it wasn't pretty...in fact it's the worst i've ever felt excepting when i've been severely sick with the flu. happily, i was able to get relatively normal by tapering off and then spending three or four weeks feeling miserable. never going to take them on the regular again.
Re: Depression rears it's ugly head again
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:17 pm
by popvulture
I'm not gonna nitpick but I was responding to Jwar about the Kratom thing, and the fact that he sounded like he was giving himself a pretty hard time. Just trying to help.
Re: Depression rears it's ugly head again
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:26 pm
by waltdogg
no worries then.
Re: Depression rears it's ugly head again
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:50 am
by rustywire
Any1 else having some intense sad boy moments lately, remembering a lot of childhood shit specifically from 1997?
A mix of fond memories and woulda/coulda/shouldas (but didn't) what-ifs. Is that strictly a me-thing? Happening these past few years, like I needed 2 decades to process some of the situations and view them for what they were. Been super nostalgic for the pre-911 years of my life.
Re: Depression rears it's ugly head again
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:48 am
by Eivind August
All the best to all of you. You'll get through this.

Re: Depression rears it's ugly head again
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:36 pm
by friendship
Started to write a text wall but suffice to say birthdays are now a depression spiral trigger instead of a fun party. I've had chronic depression for 20 years so all the common assurances that it's a temporary thing that'll pass eventually have no value to me. I've been living in an anxious, bleak fog my whole life and there's no reason to believe that will ever change. Medication and therapy do just enough keep me alive, but what for? Why?
Re: Depression rears it's ugly head again
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:40 pm
by actual
My sister told me yesterday, that my 12 year old nephew told her, that people get sad because they haven't accepted that life is shit, but he has, thus he doesn't get in his feelings. I'm so proud.
Re: Depression rears it's ugly head again
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:21 pm
by waltdogg
actualidiot wrote:My sister told me yesterday, that my 12 year old nephew told her, that people get sad because they haven't accepted that life is shit, but he has, thus he doesn't get in his feelings. I'm so proud.
he's totally right.
life is a mess of absurdity full of useless people sprinkled with a few good things/people, and really bad things/people. and you have no control over that. you'll go insane trying to control it.
Re: Depression rears it's ugly head again
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:40 pm
by Jwar
waltdogg wrote:actualidiot wrote:My sister told me yesterday, that my 12 year old nephew told her, that people get sad because they haven't accepted that life is shit, but he has, thus he doesn't get in his feelings. I'm so proud.
he's totally right.
life is a mess of absurdity full of useless people sprinkled with a few good things/people, and really bad things/people. and you have no control over that. you'll go insane trying to control it.
I disagree and think it's an extremely damaging thing to let a kid get away with that line of thinking. Talk about a warped mindset. No offense man, but that's border line child neglect in my opinion. Kids should be full of life, not nihilistic and pessimistic. That's what leads to teen suicides.
I think of life as a gift. I only get one and I'm extremely grateful for it even though I do have my down times. Of course life can be shit at times, but it's not always shit. It's often times quite awesome. Like those times where you tickled your kids and get to see the sheer joy on their faces from the love and interaction. Or the times where you wake up next to your spouse and just feel more love in your heart than you could bear to stand. Or when you cry because you're happy that something worked out for someone who deserved it. No, life is most certainly a gift for me.
One thing I learned early on in my addiction is you cannot control people, places, or things. So, in a sense you only have control over your own actions. Which, I suppose you could also say it not always true depending on the person.
However, if I didn't think there was a point to all this mess of a life, I wouldn't be alive. I wouldn't be seeking help from my friends and from a professional. Life is worth living.
Re: Depression rears it's ugly head again
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:22 pm
by actual
Nah man, don't get it twisted. He's a normal kid, we always have fun and laugh, his mother is very caring and has a huge heart.I was around his age when I had my first stint with existentialism as well. Some people are just like that.
Re: Depression rears it's ugly head again
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:25 pm
by $harkToootth
I wasn't going to post this but the thread has taken a turn that is all too pertinent to not. One of my all time favorites! I'll take any flak for being lame

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Re: Depression rears it's ugly head again
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:49 pm
by Jwar
actualidiot wrote:Nah man, don't get it twisted. He's a normal kid, we always have fun and laugh, his mother is very caring and has a huge heart.I was around his age when I had my first stint with existentialism as well. Some people are just like that.
I don't think I'm getting it twisted. I think I'm reading into it exactly how you posted it, which it'd be nice if you didn't post that kind shit in a thread that clearly states I'm having issues anyway.
Thanks
EDIT
Also, I wasn't insinuating he isn't a normal kid. I was saying that shit is not funny, nor is it helpful in this thread where I'm trying to be real.
Re: Depression rears it's ugly head again
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:56 pm
by actual
No where did I say that "he's getting away with it". Saying life is shit isnt != being depressed all the time, but to figure out how to be happy in spite of all the shit there is in life. Calling it border line child neglect is out of line. The kid hasn't seen a day of his mother abusing drugs/alcohol, he's healthy, etc. My post was kinda in response to friendship's post. I'm sorry it made you feel bad, but don't think I'm not doing everything I can to smother that kid in love.