Re: Chase Bliss Audio "Warped Vinyl" pedal
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:41 pm
I have decided some of my pedals gotta hit the ol' chopping block so I can snag one of these.
I can't wait.
I can't wait.
I didn't really think about that but it could be pretty sick in a good way too.chaseblissaudio wrote:That's a much better idea than overdrive, I think.... especially because you will, of course, be able to modulate that knob... modulating a drive would just sound like tremolo but modulating a tone control would be like a modulating filter... which would be really interesting happening at the same time as the tremolo effect. I'll just have to make sure I use a tone circuit that's interesting, but not too wacky.Tristan wrote:The Goatkeeper 3 was $340,- if I'm not mistaken.chaseblissaudio wrote:Cool. how much was the gtk3? I'd really like to keep my tremolo under $300 and I think I'll be able to do it. I seriously hate that my stuff is expensive...goroth wrote:Also, from a branding point, you're already in that price class. If the warped vinyl can work the it's not a huge leap to a tricked out trem.
Thanks for answering my questions again, sounds good, I think I might actually pull the trigger.
I liked your video's by the way, it's cool to see the actual builder explain things about the pedal.
About the tremolo, I'd opt for a tone control, not many have it but the amount of different sounds possible with a nice tone control on there is quite astounding.
Really good idea. I'm going to have to give you a deal when the trem comes out.
So the knobs will be Ramp, Volume, Tone on the top.... then Rate, Depth, Shift on the bottom.
JuJo wrote:If I had some spending money for pedals right now I`d definitely place an order.
This is is a great idea. The volume sensitive time setting on the panner in the line 6 m5/9 is one of my favorite things.backwhenIwascool wrote:what about attack/envelope control?
That's a really cool/interesting idea. You could re-create this effect on warped vinyl. The easiest (but also most effortful while playing) would be to connect an expression pedal and have it control depth. That way you can control the amount of depth you want during the performance.backwhenIwascool wrote:Ok Joel, I obviously don't expect you to implement this at this point in the game, however, I had an idea for a possible future thing....
So, being a lover of vibrato - really - I love the sound of beat-matched vibrato (one aspect I am totally grateful for on the WV) and recently, via the midfi pitch pirate deluxe, I have fallen in love with having a heavy square wave vibrato kick off right at the beginning of the beat, giving the first note a very distinct "blurp" when timed precisely.
Now, I know that tap tempo is going to satisfy many of my tonal desires, and that tap tempo will make this much easier, but what about attack/envelope control? (It'd be cool for accent notes, not just the up/down beats)
It'd be really cool (at times) for the vibrato to only come in when you strike harder (or softer depending on options/settings, etc...) and then go away once desired, based solely on attack dynamics. So, one could strike a note/chord hard and have that note/chord warp out nicely (if the square wave was set to the left side of course) then return to normal playing and the modulation would disappear quickly as attack dynamics changed (maybe RAMP could vary effect fade out rate in this mode).
So, any thoughts on this? Any way to update the micro-controller for an update in the future? Either way, it's the only thing that I look forward to. EVERYTHING else that I wanted in a vibrato has been satisfied by what I have seen/heard so far.
Thanks Joel.
Cool. I think that's a pretty good workaround. I'll just hunt down a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PEDAL that responds in this specific way. LOL I'm really kidding. I love CV. My only concern is that without envelope control the LFO would be constantly going, and the attack might not "catch" the right part of the waveform (and that's the whole point since it's the initially lift of the square wave wave gives the note it's awesome warp). With envelope control, however, (specifically with the square wave) you wouldn't have to worry about any of that since the waveform would kick off right when the attack threshold was reached.chaseblissaudio wrote:That's a really cool/interesting idea. You could re-create this effect on warped vinyl. The easiest (but also most effortful while playing) would be to connect an expression pedal and have it control depth. That way you can control the amount of depth you want during the performance.backwhenIwascool wrote:Ok Joel, I obviously don't expect you to implement this at this point in the game, however, I had an idea for a possible future thing....
So, being a lover of vibrato - really - I love the sound of beat-matched vibrato (one aspect I am totally grateful for on the WV) and recently, via the midfi pitch pirate deluxe, I have fallen in love with having a heavy square wave vibrato kick off right at the beginning of the beat, giving the first note a very distinct "blurp" when timed precisely.
Now, I know that tap tempo is going to satisfy many of my tonal desires, and that tap tempo will make this much easier, but what about attack/envelope control? (It'd be cool for accent notes, not just the up/down beats)
It'd be really cool (at times) for the vibrato to only come in when you strike harder (or softer depending on options/settings, etc...) and then go away once desired, based solely on attack dynamics. So, one could strike a note/chord hard and have that note/chord warp out nicely (if the square wave was set to the left side of course) then return to normal playing and the modulation would disappear quickly as attack dynamics changed (maybe RAMP could vary effect fade out rate in this mode).
So, any thoughts on this? Any way to update the micro-controller for an update in the future? Either way, it's the only thing that I look forward to. EVERYTHING else that I wanted in a vibrato has been satisfied by what I have seen/heard so far.
Thanks Joel.
There's another way though... if there's some device out there that outputs a CV voltage based on an input signal... then you could just connect that (the cv signal that is ultimately reflecting your guitar's amplitude) to the expression input and there you go. Anybody know of anything like that?
Yeah, those are awesome pedals for sure, but not exactly what I'm after.Genghis Kanye wrote:I think that that pedal ALMOST exists, backwhen. Pigtronix Quantum Time Modulator and Subdecay Siren have envelope vibrato, but I think that the envelope on the Siren only effects the vibrato speed. They both sound demented, though.
Could probably use the Moog MF107 Freqbox.chaseblissaudio wrote:There's another way though... if there's some device out there that outputs a CV voltage based on an input signal... then you could just connect that (the cv signal that is ultimately reflecting your guitar's amplitude) to the expression input and there you go. Anybody know of anything like that?
awww, ok, I got it. I didn't realize it was important that the beginning of the wave would get triggered on the attack, but now I see why that would be useful.backwhenIwascool wrote:Cool. I think that's a pretty good workaround. I'll just hunt down a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PEDAL that responds in this specific way. LOL I'm really kidding. I love CV. My only concern is that without envelope control the LFO would be constantly going, and the attack might not "catch" the right part of the waveform (and that's the whole point since it's the initially lift of the square wave wave gives the note it's awesome warp). With envelope control, however, (specifically with the square wave) you wouldn't have to worry about any of that since the waveform would kick off right when the attack threshold was reached.chaseblissaudio wrote:That's a really cool/interesting idea. You could re-create this effect on warped vinyl. The easiest (but also most effortful while playing) would be to connect an expression pedal and have it control depth. That way you can control the amount of depth you want during the performance.backwhenIwascool wrote:Ok Joel, I obviously don't expect you to implement this at this point in the game, however, I had an idea for a possible future thing....
So, being a lover of vibrato - really - I love the sound of beat-matched vibrato (one aspect I am totally grateful for on the WV) and recently, via the midfi pitch pirate deluxe, I have fallen in love with having a heavy square wave vibrato kick off right at the beginning of the beat, giving the first note a very distinct "blurp" when timed precisely.
Now, I know that tap tempo is going to satisfy many of my tonal desires, and that tap tempo will make this much easier, but what about attack/envelope control? (It'd be cool for accent notes, not just the up/down beats)
It'd be really cool (at times) for the vibrato to only come in when you strike harder (or softer depending on options/settings, etc...) and then go away once desired, based solely on attack dynamics. So, one could strike a note/chord hard and have that note/chord warp out nicely (if the square wave was set to the left side of course) then return to normal playing and the modulation would disappear quickly as attack dynamics changed (maybe RAMP could vary effect fade out rate in this mode).
So, any thoughts on this? Any way to update the micro-controller for an update in the future? Either way, it's the only thing that I look forward to. EVERYTHING else that I wanted in a vibrato has been satisfied by what I have seen/heard so far.
Thanks Joel.
There's another way though... if there's some device out there that outputs a CV voltage based on an input signal... then you could just connect that (the cv signal that is ultimately reflecting your guitar's amplitude) to the expression input and there you go. Anybody know of anything like that?
....that being said.....
I can't wait for the user demos of the WV to start popping up.