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Re: Stop the bitching about the mods
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:08 pm
by Caesar
magiclawnchair wrote:dubkitty wrote:who are you to infringe on ANYONE'S rights? that's the appropriate question. why don't you and the other white-boy guilt-trippers just shut up?
For the love of fuzz, please go away.
Re: Stop the bitching about the mods
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:10 pm
by Wotan
Re: Stop the bitching about the mods
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:10 pm
by bigchiefbc
dubkitty wrote:bigchiefbc wrote:It's not about being PC or favoritism. Stop being so obtuse. It's about not going out of your way to antogonize specific groups of people. That doesn't equal 'PC'.
no. it's about protecting ONLY specific groups of people from being offended--not "antagonized'--based on their protected status. that
is PC, no matter how strenuously your ideology demands that you deny the plain and obvious truth of the matter, and that's unfair and wrong. either protect everyone, or have a fair playing field for everyone.
Only specific groups are being attacked. If old guys or white guys were being attacked, I'd be pissed off about that too.
Re: Stop the bitching about the mods
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:10 pm
by dubkitty
however, we are going to continue to have people yakking about "white privilege"--which in this day and age is prima facie a racist argument in parts of America--ad nauseum, people capping on me for being "old," etc., and even if reported you won't find anything wrong with that. and you'll continue to allow Devi Ever to shit all over people without allowing people to make her feel equally welcome by noting that she is not chromosomally congruent with her announced gender identification. that's. not. fair. cue the usual mockers.
Re: Stop the bitching about the mods
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:12 pm
by magiclawnchair
Caesar wrote:magiclawnchair wrote:dubkitty wrote:who are you to infringe on ANYONE'S rights? that's the appropriate question. why don't you and the other white-boy guilt-trippers just shut up?
For the love of fuzz, please go away.
Re: Stop the bitching about the mods
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:13 pm
by dubkitty
magiclawnchair wrote:dubkitty wrote:who are you to infringe on ANYONE'S rights? that's the appropriate question. why don't you and the other white-boy guilt-trippers just shut up?
For the love of fuzz, please go away.
no. what you're saying is false and hypocritical, and i have a right and a responsibility to call you on it.
Re: Stop the bitching about the mods
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:13 pm
by bigchiefbc
dubkitty wrote:however, we are going to continue to have people yakking about "white privilege"--which in this day and age is prima facie a racist argument in parts of America--ad nauseum, people capping on me for being "old," etc., and even if reported you won't find anything wrong with that. and you'll continue to allow Devi Ever to shit all over people without allowing people to make her feel equally welcome by noting that she is not chromosomally congruent with her announced gender identification. that's. not. fair. cue the usual mockers.
I don't recall a rash of people attacking you for being old. Mariachi is just as old as you are, and no one gives him any shit. Maybe it's you.
And if you have a problem with Devi's shit-stirring ways, you can't think of any other way to attack her than to belittle her for being transgendered? You actually think that's a valid way of expressing your displeasure with someone? Jesus fucking christ ....
Re: Stop the bitching about the mods
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:15 pm
by dubkitty
no; i haven't used that line with her. OTHER PEOPLE have that right.
you don't recall the "old" thing because i turned it into a joke/weapon and defused it...it was about a year ago. i just decided to own it and said 'i'm so fucking OLD" so much that it lost its power. there's a lesson there, perhaps.
Re: Stop the bitching about the mods
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:16 pm
by magiclawnchair
dubkitty wrote:magiclawnchair wrote:dubkitty wrote:who are you to infringe on ANYONE'S rights? that's the appropriate question. why don't you and the other white-boy guilt-trippers just shut up?
For the love of fuzz, please go away.
no. what you're saying is false and hypocritical, and i have a right and a responsibility to call you on it.
All I'm saying is please go away. How is that false? We really would like you to go away.
Re: Stop the bitching about the mods
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:17 pm
by warwick.hoy
It's a rights free for all.
You have the right to be an asshole
I have the right to call you an asshole
Tom and the Mods have the right to edit/ban your asshole
Seriously DK,...if you are so wanting to exercise your right to use the N-word,...are you too pussy to start using it on a daily basis? Cmon,...man,...try it,...next time you go into town to get supplies go up to a group of black dudes (if there even are any) and start dropping it. Then try telling them they have no right to be offended. I bet they break your hip.
Re: Stop the bitching about the mods
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:18 pm
by Big Mon
dubkitty wrote:however, we are going to continue to have people yakking about "white privilege"--which in this day and age is prima facie a racist argument in parts of America--ad nauseum, people capping on me for being "old," etc., and even if reported you won't find anything wrong with that. and you'll continue to allow Devi Ever to shit all over people without allowing people to make her feel equally welcome by noting that she is not chromosomally congruent with her announced gender identification. that's. not. fair. cue the usual mockers.
Dude, if anyone harps n you about your age, I'll report them for you. Now shut the fuck up and enjoy Donny/MAZ/Schnikes' birthday. For fuck's sake, if you think it sucks that bad here, ride the waaaaahmbulance on over to TGP. I tried to be somewhat diplomatic and acknowledge that your "fair and just for everybody" thing had some validity. But that shit's ALL kinds of out the window now. So, to quote one of our bday boys,
EAT MY DICK.
Re: Stop the bitching about the mods
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:19 pm
by behndy
........ i'm getting near (? into?) Older Guy Territory too. 36 this year.
is there an age where you magically decide that Fantomas and Ven Snares are too noisy and sound like a racket not MUSIC so it's time to learn a lot of tasteful jazz lines?
that'll be AWESOME. so much cheaper than Constant Efx Whorery. can't WAIT.
Re: Stop the bitching about the mods
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:21 pm
by bigchiefbc
dubkitty wrote:no; i haven't used that line with her. OTHER PEOPLE have that right.
No, they don't. The mods have said that it violates rule #1. I don't know where you are getting the idea that you have some rights other than what the owner of the board has said that you have. Roseweave used to make this exact same argument. She used to think that the first amendment somehow applied to privately owned message boards.
dubkitty wrote:you don't recall the "old" thing because i turned it into a joke/weapon and defused it...it was about a year ago. i just decided to own it and said 'i'm so fucking OLD" so much that it lost its power. there's a lesson there, perhaps
As James said, why don't you go on a crusade teaching black people how to diffuse and live with the N word. I bet it'll go over swimmingly.
Re: Stop the bitching about the mods
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:23 pm
by Big Mon
behndy wrote:........ i'm getting near (? into?) Older Guy Territory too. 36 this year.
is there an age where you magically decide that Fantomas and Ven Snares are too noisy and sound like a racket not MUSIC so it's time to learn a lot of tasteful jazz lines?
that'll be AWESOME. so much cheaper than Constant Efx Whorery. can't WAIT.
I feel it necessary to re-post something I said before:
I like you!
Re: Stop the bitching about the mods
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:32 pm
by dubkitty
people seem to be obsessed with the idea that by defending the right to expression i must therefore intend to use such expression myself, which is silly; defending, e.g., the right to make porn doesn't imply the intent to act in porn and defending the right to abortion doesn't entail the intent to use that right personally, especially for a male.
my point regarding (oh, brother) "the 'n' word": in the 21st century, this word is a colloquialism ("slang word") used in many aspects of informal culture despite the reaction it evokes from the intellectual and media class. it's used in deuces-wild fashion in black culture, is in common usage as a synonym for "friend," "bro," or "homie" in Mexican culture in California (i don't know much about Hispanics in the rest of the US), is not uncommon even outside of hip-hop fans among young whites in a similar fashion to Hispanic usage, and is so common in parts of popular culture, especially rap and other black music that's crossed over to the white market, that it's not surprising it's become common in the same way many black speech patterns got adopted by white youth culture. to try to eliminate that word in all its cultural manifestations is goofy. should it be banned as a slur? ABSOLUTELY. should it be eliminated from the joke usage "n***a, please'? i don't think so...that's a usage that's become so mainstreamed as a black-accepted usage that IMO it's OK unless it's uttered by someone with clearly hateful intent.