by Tristan » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:10 pm
multi_s wrote:Tristan wrote:Guess I still need to get the right "touch" for it but it works now so that's cool.
Any word on the internal mix /volume trimpot, I remember the Goodbye 24 has one but I don't know about the Count To Five?
It's loud as balls, especially on upper interval settings, I can only turn it up halfway max without me getting shocked, joking of course, but it's kinda loud.
It really shouldn't be that loud. There are 2 trim pots inside but 1 of them you really don't want to touch so please read this carefully and be mindful if your going to make any adjustments.
You remove the back, look in the middle of the pcb, component side, there are 2 blue trim pots. You may be able to see on the silkscreen that the one closest to the edge of the PCB says 'offset' beside it. Do not touch this trim pot.
Look at the other trim pot now, it might be hard to see with the pcb in the case but it says 'gain' beside it. You can try using a small screwdriver to turn this counter-clockwise and it will reduce the level of the signal going into the dsp, and in turn lower the volume coming out. This is the only gain adjustment that can be made user side. If it is really really off maybe there is a wrong part in the mixer section, although i tested all units before being sent out and they seem ok. So if you still have problems please email me and we can look further into it.
Keep in mind also that the pedal layers several copies of the same sound in certain settings, so for example in mode 3, with only 1 DIR knob active, the wet sound is much quieter than when all 3 heads are active. Similarly, the first mode with high feedback will seem louder than when feedback is at the min. The mix knob might not be as set and forget as you wish if you are always trying to have the clean and wet exactly even.
And now, as only half a joke, another problem in general is that your ears don't hear all frequencies evenly. So if you take a low tone and constantly pitch it up, there will be some perceived volume increase as it traverses the mids, even if it maintains exactly the same amplitude. This is why things like this exist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-loudness_contour and psycho acoustics is an actual field of study.
Now since the pedal doesn't track pitch at all, i make no attempt to remedy this in the firmware, save for a low pass filter that will choke out pitches that are getting piercingly high, but that's not really the same issue.
I'm not saying this to be like "oh its not the pedal, its your ears" as a cop out. I think its an interesting comment and thought you might find it an interesting reply.
Cool, thanks for the info, I'll try working with the internal trimpot a bit.
Right now the range I'm using and I'm trying to balance out on the mix lies between 2/3 and 3/4 up, which is quite narrow.
Sure thing, that's basically what I was trying to say put in more technical terms, I dunno, because of the higher resolution the Count To Five somehow seems to pick up more sound than the Goodbye 24 and therefore gets more louder compared to the dry signal in perception, that would be my guess at least.
The feedback and mix are also more interactive I'd say, so yeah, it's a bit of a different kind of beast but also a very nice one at that I must say!
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