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ALLisNOISE wrote:you can dial in some wonderfully smeared 12bit cascades of cicadas leveling a hail of rockets against an army of rusty box fans!
goroth wrote:As long as there is enough product differentiation I don't see why you can't have three versions. Subdecay is a good example of this - the Quantum Starlight or whatever the little flanger is called offers a really practical, grab and go flanger. The 1790 DLX version is a fucking beast. If they chose the feature set carefully they could definitely squeeze in another product there, giving more control over the basic sounds, in a relatively small package, but not going all gonzo. I think why it didn't work with their proteus/prometheus/prometheus DLX was partially a marketing thing, and partially that the differentiation wasn't all that clear between the versions, both price wise and feature wise.
I think you've done a super job with the Fuck - there are plenty of dudes who rock both, and I think you'd need to take a similar approach to the TAFM. Work out the key features that have to be there for it to be a TAFM, then give each version it's own personality so that theoretically you'd want to own all three.
TAFM is already pretty versatile in what it can do, so while I don't doubt that the tweaks offer a substantial increase in the amount of cool stuff you can do with a TAFM, I think it might need an extra feature to make it an obvious purchase - like jwarious says, a filter with expression would do it. I dunno how easy it is to sell the idea "hey, this fuzz is super versatile. But the deluxe version is even more versatile. In case super versatile like, wasn't enough". But "more versatile, more sounds, MOAR FILTERZ" = must buy.
That way the feature set for each TAFM would be really quite varied, and it'd be logical to own all three.
jwar wrote:I honestly don't think the TAFM needs to be changed at all Brian. When I've had one, I love and use all the options. Each switch and knob is important.
SSBS: Hay guyz, would you like more switches?
ILF: YEAH YEAH; FUCKEN SWITCHES, YEAH!
SSBS: Ok, but if I made a fuzz that was a little bit more
(interrupts) ILF: SHUT UP, MORE IS GOOD. YEAH, MORE!
SSBS: Ok cool. What about a smal..
(interrupting again): WE DON'T GIVE A SHIT. SMALLER STUFF MEANS MORE ROOM TO PUT MORE FUZZ ON PEDALBOARD
SSBS: But I was actually talking about a del..
ILF: FUZZY REPEATS!
Um... Brian just released 12 new pedals, and I don't understand shit? Are they delays? All of them? But they fuzz*... ?
Let's go to TGP and by a Klon
Ok.
ALLisNOISE wrote:you can dial in some wonderfully smeared 12bit cascades of cicadas leveling a hail of rockets against an army of rusty box fans!
goroth wrote:Gotcha dude. Hope you don't take "sell" wrong, but I like the idea of selling a concept, selling an idea - not in monetary terms but in terms of "yep, I get what you're up to". Dunno, maybe it works better in Swedish. I love the dialogue that you and Ryan (Dr Sci) have via your forums - it's cool to follow an idea and see how someone you respect goes from idea to this little box that's on my pedal board. Although there's always the risk at ILF that you're preaching to the choir...SSBS: Hay guyz, would you like more switches?
ILF: YEAH YEAH; FUCKEN SWITCHES, YEAH!
SSBS: Ok, but if I made a fuzz that was a little bit more
(interrupts) ILF: SHUT UP, MORE IS GOOD. YEAH, MORE!
SSBS: Ok cool. What about a smal..
(interrupting again): WE DON'T GIVE A SHIT. SMALLER STUFF MEANS MORE ROOM TO PUT MORE FUZZ ON PEDALBOARD
SSBS: But I was actually talking about a del..
ILF: FUZZY REPEATS!
nah i didn't take it the wrong way.
Meanwhile over at TWOILF (the world outside of ILF)Um... Brian just released 12 new pedals, and I don't understand shit? Are they delays? All of them? But they fuzz*... ?
Let's go to TGP and by a Klon
Ok.
*Fuzz: Verb. The act of making something fuzzy. OED
Derelict78 wrote:That probably sounds awful in the best possible way.
tomlane95 wrote:i think the tafm is perfect as it is and energy would be better spent on filters and delays!
but i would definitely not be opposed to getting a second smaller tafm either
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