The Doom Room: ILF Edition

[misterstomach]

Druden is absolutely awesome. Just sayin.

I agree I like you guys

awesome. we're playing your town on april 19th. perhaps we'll meet.

[misterstomach]

also, i just discovered this band and thought i would contribute to the thread with them. it includes a former bandmate of our other guitar player and he's setting up a show that we're playing with them in santa barbara on our tour in a couple of months. i just checked them out today and it's fucking awesome funeral doom. this shit is right up my alley. sutratma:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb5jKcf2zeQ[/youtube]

their website has 5 songs on soundcloud streaming and they're all fucking awesome.

[Andrew]

Can we somehow tie Hardcore into the thread as well?

[crohny]

Can we somehow tie Hardcore into the thread as well?

Hopefully it is run like the Doom Room on HC and all heavy stuff is welcome.

[AxAxSxS]

Can we somehow tie Hardcore into the thread as well?

Hopefully it is run like the Doom Room on HC and all heavy stuff is welcome.

That was the best thing about that thread. the sheer variety of great music.

and Druden

[live-i-evil]

also, i just discovered this band and thought i would contribute to the thread with them. it includes a former bandmate of our other guitar player and he's setting up a show that we're playing with them in santa barbara on our tour in a couple of months. i just checked them out today and it's fucking awesome funeral doom. this shit is right up my alley. sutratma:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb5jKcf2zeQ[/youtube]

their website has 5 songs on soundcloud streaming and they're all fucking awesome.

Awesome! If you dudes need a place to stay when you come down you're more than welcome to at my place. You know how to get a hold of me, either here or by phone.

[deathmonkey]

Yes, a lot of La Monte Young in there.

Ahh, you beat me to it I see. I've been hitting a lot of William Basinksi lately - Watermusic and the Tape Loop Drones are awesome.

Basinski is so good. I love listening to the disentegration loops in the rain with all the lights off. It makes me want to kill myself.

[dazedbyday]

Neurosis was great last night. They finished with Locust Star which was a great way to tear it up at the end. I am glad that I got to see them because it will probably be a long time till they make it out here again. I missed the first opener but got to see the second group which was James Plotkin and Tim Wyskida. I wasn't digging it. They had a nice drum kit set up and a beta bass into an ampeg 8x10 with a gibson gold top with mini humbuckers. But the drumming was very minimalist to the point of not playing anything for minutes at a time. Meanwhile the guitarist was playing into a looper and some kind of eq/controller. He would loop different sounds while tweaking the eq controls to create feedback. It just didn't seem to have any direction and didn't draw me in. It was kinda like when I saw Taurus before Agolloch. It was just a lot of feedback through a shit-ton of delay. I can dig some drone and noise but this just didn't work.

[dub]

Nice to have all you guys here, now I don't have to lurk over at HC. Long time fan of the doom room, feels like a strange thing to confess. I did sign up over there the first time they fucked with the forum, but when they reverted back to the old layout my account got deleted and I couldn't be arsed going through it again. Learned lots from everyone's posting over the years, looking forward to more delicious Dunwich porn and tasty riffs.

I agree, bands that set out to be a certain style normally end up failing. The best bands, IMO, are the ones that truly create something unique, and they're that way naturally. Deftones, for example, don't really fit into any one category. They invented a whole new sub-sub-genre that was entirely pure and organic.

Well, the Deftones started out wanting to be HUM. But yeah, the key is to steal from lots of bands, not just one.

That reminds me of a Neurosis show I went to. I will not name the opening band, but when I got there I said "fuck, did Neurosis start already?" and then realized it was the opener. They took the stock parts of Neurosis songs, stretched and repeated ad nauseum, for wayyy to long. I would have been embarrassed to be in that band. They almost detracted from Neurosis's set because by the time N. went on, I was a little tired of the slow heavy churn. But then of course, N. blew my socks out my ass so everything was okay.

Amen Ra? I find them pretty derivative. I admire what they're trying to do, but so much of that post-rock and metal stuff is walking a road Neurosis have been travelling for thirty years. I think U.S. Christmas are great through, they're on a similar path (and even share a lot of thematic ground with Neurosis) but doing their own totally unique thing.

Most amps are price gouged.

Sound City, Sunn, Marshall, Ampegs, Fenders even now those ones the blues lawyers hate from the 70s, Orange, Matamp. You cant even pick up anything for cheap unless the person is a moron

Blame the internet, really. The only true bargains left are unknown brands, here in NZ there were a bunch of local amp manufacturers who existed because of high import duties prior to the late 80s, that made overseas musical equipment prohibitively expensive. Often deals would be struck with touring bands who came here to leave their stuff behind! I'm guessing there's probably similar offbrands and clones elsewhere in the world.

Even gear-wise: a few years ago everybody and their mothers was buying Fender amps and offset guitars and playing weepy post-rock stuff. I feel like stoner and doom are taking that place now, I've never seen so many people playing SGs and Orange amps as I see nowadays.

The sad thing there is that so many would rather just buy the gear some other guy has than really think about how many ways there are to skin this cat. You can sure get just as much stoned out doom sound outta Fender goods as SG's and Oranges. I don't mean to say that those items sound identical, just that they can be wielded in equally 'heavy' fashion.

There are so many great stoner/doom tones, that can be achieved so many ways, you can play any guitar, use amp dirt, fuzzes, all you really need is feel, and volume (and sometimes you don't even need that! Shit, I saw a Scott Kelly solo performance that was one of the heaviest things I've ever seen).

Then there's also Alvin Luciere with his minimalist piece I'm Sitting in a Room. This is also more experimental as far as minimalism goes and wikipedia's summation of it illustrates it better than I could - Luciere is sitting in a room recording himself narrating a text, and then playing the recording back into the room, re-recording it. The new recording is then played back and re-recorded, and this process is repeated. Since all rooms have characteristic resonance or formant frequencies (e.g. different between a large hall and a small room), the effect is that certain frequencies are emphasized as they resonate in the room, until eventually the words become unintelligible, replaced by the pure resonant harmonies and tones of the room itself.

Not to harp on about Neurosis... There's a bonus feature on the A Sun That Never Sets DVD where Neurosis repeat this setup. aha.

I'll post up some kiwi shit for you guys when I get home from work, I think we've got a few bands you'll enjoy.

[live-i-evil]

Not to harp on about Neurosis... There's a bonus feature on the A Sun That Never Sets DVD where Neurosis repeat this setup. aha.

I'll post up some kiwi shit for you guys when I get home from work, I think we've got a few bands you'll enjoy.

That's fucking awesome! I love Neurosis and never knew that, now I gotta check it out.

[phantasmagorovich]

Using rooms for feedback loops. Awesome!

Who said Terry Riley should not forget about Glenn Branca. The Tonal Plexus Symphony is really great stuff. To me that, Rileys In C and one or the other Philip Glass opera (Madrigal Opera!) is the best classical stuff. Although there are still open spots in the collection. I haven't really checked out Penderecki and can't quite remember Arvo Pärt. My last listen to that dude has been ages ago.

Some more stuff for you guys to check out:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ8V-_s2Pqc[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43Z4yljYY_c[/youtube]

Stumbled upon this while looking for something else:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK7STgRd7oY[/youtube]

Shameless plug of my own band in the NSFW

NSFW: show

[Andrew]

Most amps are price gouged.

Sound City, Sunn, Marshall, Ampegs, Fenders even now those ones the blues lawyers hate from the 70s, Orange, Matamp. You cant even pick up anything for cheap unless the person is a moron

Blame the internet, really. The only true bargains left are unknown brands, here in NZ there were a bunch of local amp manufacturers who existed because of high import duties prior to the late 80s, that made overseas musical equipment prohibitively expensive. Often deals would be struck with touring bands who came here to leave their stuff behind! I'm guessing there's probably similar offbrands and clones elsewhere in the world.

Even gear-wise: a few years ago everybody and their mothers was buying Fender amps and offset guitars and playing weepy post-rock stuff. I feel like stoner and doom are taking that place now, I've never seen so many people playing SGs and Orange amps as I see nowadays.

The sad thing there is that so many would rather just buy the gear some other guy has than really think about how many ways there are to skin this cat. You can sure get just as much stoned out doom sound outta Fender goods as SG's and Oranges. I don't mean to say that those items sound identical, just that they can be wielded in equally 'heavy' fashion.

That's why I cannot get rid of my ENGL Screamer, I bought it for $1000 au (cheeeeeaap) and it gets every variety of Heavy sound I want and retains great cleans and takes pedals like a bitch. I've tried other amps but I can't justify buying an amp worth more than the one I how now and would probably enjoy it less.

Secondly, that's why I get burnt out of Stoner Doom - it's kind of a thing now when it was/is a pretty small community and has been getting more light recently. The problem is, Stoner Doom is pretty easy to write and will pretty much always sound good when you're playing the same Phrygian Scale as everyone else. Shame, like everyone else it's the only thing I can do.


While almost contradicting myself... this guy does some really basic guitar lessons in that sort of music, then I found out that I live like 5 minutes away from him. Haha.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7VXRKcdgM[/youtube]

[misterstomach]

also, i just discovered this band and thought i would contribute to the thread with them. it includes a former bandmate of our other guitar player and he's setting up a show that we're playing with them in santa barbara on our tour in a couple of months. i just checked them out today and it's fucking awesome funeral doom. this shit is right up my alley. sutratma:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb5jKcf2zeQ[/youtube]

their website has 5 songs on soundcloud streaming and they're all fucking awesome.

Awesome! If you dudes need a place to stay when you come down you're more than welcome to at my place. You know how to get a hold of me, either here or by phone.

i'm not in the habit of checking pm's here yet, though i'll try. but you should send me your number through here or email, or just text me or something. i've had a tremendous amount of phone problems over the past year or two and have ended up back with an old phone which may not have your number, but i'd love to hang when we're in your area. get in touch.

[louderthangod]

Did I just miss something or were several people trying to say that Earth isn't a drone band? There new stuff not exactly but it does use a lot of repetition but the stuff from the early 90's was all about drone like Sunn Amps and Smashed Guitars...even Dylan called it drone and Sunn O))) started as essentially an Earth tribute band that just seemed to take off.

[BoomB]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_hVhqw9c48[/youtube]

It's hard to keep up with everything Oren puts out but this latest piece of his is great.

Also, his collab album with Haino and O'Malley that was released last year is beyond words.

This is great great stuff! Unfortunately I lost his show in my town, but it was the day before Swans...too much information for me to handle