IEatCats wrote:The apartment that I'm looking at now, is apparently one house away from a church.
I hate living near a church, but I'm hoping this one doesn't have bells going off all the damn time.
one guy here has started an initiative against churches to ring their bells cuz of disturbing the public peace. hell, if it's disturbing your peace, perhaps you're not alone and can change it. make an email like stopthebells@gmail.com and print out flyers. if enough people contact you, go public.
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IEatCats wrote:The apartment that I'm looking at now, is apparently one house away from a church.
I hate living near a church, but I'm hoping this one doesn't have bells going off all the damn time.
one guy here has started an initiative against churches to ring their bells cuz of disturbing the public peace. hell, if it's disturbing your peace, perhaps you're not alone and can change it. make an email like stopthebells@gmail.com and print out flyers. if enough people contact you, go public.
(a principle not just applicable to this case )
This seems sort of shitty to me. Some people might feel comforted by the churchbells. This kinda reminds me of the town I went to Uni in where at some point the marketenders were forbidden to yell their wares and prices out like they used to for motherfucking hundreds of years because some idiots filed complaints with the city. That is wrong. Some respect for traditions would be in order.
If you think it will be disturbing you, look for some other place to live in.
IEatCats wrote:The apartment that I'm looking at now, is apparently one house away from a church.
I hate living near a church, but I'm hoping this one doesn't have bells going off all the damn time.
one guy here has started an initiative against churches to ring their bells cuz of disturbing the public peace. hell, if it's disturbing your peace, perhaps you're not alone and can change it. make an email like stopthebells@gmail.com and print out flyers. if enough people contact you, go public.
(a principle not just applicable to this case )
This seems sort of shitty to me. Some people might feel comforted by the churchbells. This kinda reminds me of the town I went to Uni in where at some point the marketenders were forbidden to yell their wares and prices out like they used to for motherfucking hundreds of years because some idiots filed complaints with the city. That is wrong. Some respect for traditions would be in order.
If you think it will be disturbing you, look for some other place to live in.
Yeah, if you don't like church bells, don't live near a church.
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Do traditions warrant respect? If anything I typically think the opposite. I think people need to regularly discard the trivial bits of the past they're clinging to. That goes for individuals as well as cultures.
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jfrey wrote:Do traditions warrant respect? If anything I typically think the opposite. I think people need to regularly discard the trivial bits of the past they're clinging to. That goes for individuals as well as cultures.
For this an open discussion would be needed though, something that has not happened in the case I mentioned with the Bonn marketenders. I think a majority of people would have spoken out for the awesomeness of having a 'real' market with people yelling that their plums are better than the melons from the guy in the next stall. And all of it for THREEEEEE EUROOOOO A KILOOOOOOO. Well, I get that it annoys you when you live there, but you chose to move there fully knowing that there was a market going on every day of the week.
Traditions are usually there for a reason, before discarding I would check and double check. I mean, humans are not stupid by default. If something is done a certain way for hundreds of years there is usually a good reason for that, if not the tradition would have died out without anybody killing it off on purpose. Well, I consider fun and awesomeness a good reason.
jfrey wrote:Do traditions warrant respect? If anything I typically think the opposite. I think people need to regularly discard the trivial bits of the past they're clinging to. That goes for individuals as well as cultures.
My point exactly.
Also, why should he move if he has majority vote in that area? A church is a building yes, but they are pretty much everywhere (in the western world).
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jfrey wrote:Do traditions warrant respect? If anything I typically think the opposite. I think people need to regularly discard the trivial bits of the past they're clinging to. That goes for individuals as well as cultures.
My point exactly.
Also, why should he move if he has majority vote in that area? A church is a building yes, but they are pretty much everywhere (in the western world).
I think the interesting issue here is if the courtesy is mutual, for example we don't ring a church bell and try to be very respectful of the noise we create in our community because we are surrounded by homes, but the people next door seem to love cranking tunes mid service. So the courtesy has to go in both directions.
I say that if you live near a church that is cranking it's bells you should have no issues blasting an amp, which would be a pretty good thing.
Also curious if we would have the same issue if a train were blowing a whistle or if you lived near a fire house, when is noise acceptable?
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i've usually lived in pretty close proximity to church bells and railroads. i know it's irrelevant to the ultimate discussion at hand, but i find both sounds pretty soothing.
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hbombgraphics wrote:Also curious if we would have the same issue if a train were blowing a whistle or if you lived near a fire house, when is noise acceptable?
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when i was a little boy in Chicago we lived six or eight blocks from a fairly broad railroad bridge/underpass at 83rd and Vincennes that had at least 12 tracks on it and overhead signal lights and stuff, so when i was small i literally had that Woody Guthrie thing going on of laying in bed seeing the red and green lights far away and hearing the trains and wondering where they were going and imagining where all the things on those freight cars would end up. because rail freight was (and is) still such a part of the transportation system in the US and so much of it hubs through the Chicago area, i always had the sense that the place i lived was linked to this vast world of places along that web of rails and wires and roads, and that you could see and go to these places someday. mysterious places you saw glimpses of on television, New York and Miami and Los Angeles and San Francisco, the Grand Canyon and the Alamo, all out there on the rail lines...the Interstate Highways were still being built then, with huge gaps of two lane roads out in the Plains and a stretch in Northern Idaho that wouldn't be finished until well into the 1980s, and airplanes were for people who traveled in suits, people with credit cards. for kids at the end of the 50s, it was rails that still carried the dream.
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dubkitty wrote:when i was a little boy in Chicago we lived six or eight blocks from a fairly broad railroad bridge/underpass at 83rd and Vincennes that had at least 12 tracks on it and overhead signal lights and stuff, so when i was small i literally had that Woody Guthrie thing going on of laying in bed seeing the red and green lights far away and hearing the trains and wondering where they were going and imagining where all the things on those freight cars would end up. because rail freight was (and is) still such a part of the transportation system in the US and so much of it hubs through the Chicago area, i always had the sense that the place i lived was linked to this vast world of places along that web of rails and wires and roads, and that you could see and go to these places someday. mysterious places you saw glimpses of on television, New York and Miami and Los Angeles and San Francisco, the Grand Canyon and the Alamo, all out there on the rail lines...the Interstate Highways were still being built then, with huge gaps of two lane roads out in the Plains and a stretch in Northern Idaho that wouldn't be finished until well into the 1980s, and airplanes were for people who traveled in suits, people with credit cards. for kids at the end of the 50s, it was rails that still carried the dream.
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