Let's see your PEDAL BOARD!

[dubkitty]

it's the power supply that fucked up the layout, but i needed one with a 12V DC out for the LM-2 and its own onboard transformer. i don't want to deal with wall warts any more. it also has an on/off switch.

[dubkitty]

well, i realized that the ergonomics on the most recent looping board layout were terrible. i'm accustomed to having the A/B pan pedal between the A and B loopers because it just makes more sense to my brain that way, and i didn't like having the A/B's end being inset from the near edge which i haven't done before because i don't want to reach any more than required. the splitting and summing boxes were also too close together with their plugs facing each other, making any cable problem into a major project. the channel switches for the summing box were also inaccessible. so i put on my thinking cap and considered matters. i need the A/B between the loopers...i need the space on the upper middle for the PS..but i don't need the A/B module to be on the right. it wound up there because i was using the partial setup next to the big board and i naturally put the stuff i was using on the end closest to the big board.

once i moved the A/B module to the left everything sorted itself out. the summing box switches are now within reach, and the splitter and summer are separated. it'll still be a pain to take out a cable, but it won't involve 60% of the cables on the board. everything that needs to be at the near edge or easily accessible is there; the limiter will be a set-and-forget always-on pedal so it's OK for it to be in the back. also shifted the LM-2 and splitter box to leave room so the DC cable plugs don't hang off the back of the board where they can get whacked. i really try to design around things that could be a problem. that's part of why this stuff takes so long for me...there's so many options and potential glitches and i have to sort through them all. an unexpected benefit of the shift is that it simplified the cable runs tremendously. the signal no longer goes from one side of the board to the other 3 times. so now i have more spare 18" cables than i'm likely to ever use.

i'm pleased that the loop board fits with the general (unintentional) aesthetic of the other two boards whose dominant colors are black, grey, aluminum, blue, and white with occasional splashes of orange.

my concern now is that the looper board may just be too damn big to use comfortably. the A/B module is going to be a long way from the end of the big board. i think i'm going to need some kind of swiveling chair or stool, or maybe a piano bench turned sideways so i could place the smaller boards at a 90° angle to the big board. a settee cube three feet across would work, but wouldn't be practical to schlep around when i get to the point of taking this stuff out of the house. now i need to install the power cables and do some testing to see if the current layout is practical. i really hope this settles matters, because i'm really sick of moving pedals around, wiring them, and then tearing them up again. hopefully this will be the last time i post this for awhile.

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[dubkitty]

you should see me pack the back of a car LOL. part of being a Master of Time and Space (h/t Leon Russell) is mastering space.

[coldbrightsunlight]

This is some high level ergonomic thought. I've just accepted that in a practical/live setting having more than one row of pedals is too much. I applaud your efforts to make it work! Extremely neat cabling

[dubkitty]

if i had to do everything with one row of pedals the board would have to be 30 feet wide.

[coldbrightsunlight]

And you could get a miniature railway to ride to help you get in the changes.

[gila_crisis]

Mini setup for a noise/drone gig I have Monday evening, where I'll have my Looperlative LP2 looper totally controlled by a MAX MSP patch I've programmed on my computer! It's gonna be wild and random as never before, the only part I can control are the sound I?m feeding into the looper!!!

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[Heraclitus Akimbo]

Mini setup for a noise/drone gig I have Monday evening, where I'll have my Looperlative LP2 looper totally controlled by a MAX MSP patch I've programmed on my computer! It's gonna be wild and random as never before, the only part I can control are the sound I?m feeding into the looper!!!

Very cool, hope you can hit us with the documentation!

[gila_crisis]

Mini setup for a noise/drone gig I have Monday evening, where I'll have my Looperlative LP2 looper totally controlled by a MAX MSP patch I've programmed on my computer! It's gonna be wild and random as never before, the only part I can control are the sound I?m feeding into the looper!!!

Very cool, hope you can hit us with the documentation!

Of course I will! I'll record audio and video of this performance!

[dubkitty]

looking forward to hearing that.

[dubkitty]

so i put the entire setup together (sans the Cantrell wah which i seldom use due to space considerations and never having owned a wah before) and everything works. i'm pleased to say that the looping board worked perfectly as soon as i plugged it in, which is unprecedented...there's always at least one cable that goes bad. the layout seems to work well, though in the living room it's hard to get all the way to the Ditto on the far left.

i'm going to have to get some kind of seat and arrange the boards at 90° to each other so i can get to everything. this will require the ability to swivel or scoot so i can work to either side of the big board. i'm now going through a period of testing and tweaking, figuring out how to steer this ocean liner. i'm having trouble with the LM-2, which seems to insist on raising the noise floor during the quiet bits which ain't what a limiter is supposed to do. i've also been working on learning the 1440's various functions, with particular emphasis on the automatic fadeout. listening to it fade over a minute and a half is rather unearthly. i think i'm sorted on being able to do good edits with the loopers, but will practice a bunch more anyway so i get used to the whole setup.

this has also necessitated going through the other boards and resetting stuff that was OK on its own but sticks out in an enormous signal chain. i've been through the whole front-end board today and am pretty happy with it for now. went though the big board yesterday, but when i started doing stuff today some of the settings didn't work for me, so i need to go back through that stuff again.

but the big thing is that at long last i appear to actually have the setup sorted i've been developing for about 12 years. there are things that could be better--i still haven't found the buzzsaw fuzz i hear in my head and the perfect tremolo continues to elude me--but i can boogie with this for now. Moog expression pedal for Randy's Revenge incoming.

i now have more pedals in my setup than all three guitarists in Slowdive combined LOL.

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a festive shot for the holiday season. should have turned everything on.

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[dubkitty]

for the record:

front-end board (right side of photo): EHX Octave Multiplexer->EHX Attack Delay w/Moog EP-3 expression pedal (upper right)->AD effects loop->Fairfield Circuitry Shallow Water (bottom tier, left of expression pedal)->Ibanez LF7 Lo Fi (upper tier, second from left->->Zvex Instant Lo-Fi Junky (upper tier, far left)->return to Attack Delay->processed AD output to Boss RV-3 reverb/delay (bottom tier, far left). power supply: Truetone CS6. frame: 00s Pedaltrain Jr.

main board (center): TC Electronics Polytune v1->1978 MXR Distortion+ (center tier, far right)->Fuzzhugger 3-knob Great Wall v3 (lower tier, next to Polytune)->Catalinbread germanium Fuzzrite->EMMA Discumbobulator envelope filter->MojoHand FX Villanova optical univibe->Fairfield Circuitry Randy's Revenge ring modulator v1->TC Electronics SCF chorus/flanger/pitch modulator (always in flanger mode), original run with 120V AC power (center tier, far left)->Boss CH-1 chorus (upper tier, far right)->Ibanez PM7 Phase Modulator->Fender SCF Tube Tremolo->TC Electronics Flashback v1 delay (center tier, second from right)->EHX Canyon delay (left of Flashback)->Catalinbread Soft Focus reverb (top tier, second from left)->Earthquaker Ghost Echo v1 reverb. power supply: 2x MXR DC Brick with one running off the other's 12V output. frame: Pedaltrain Novo 24.

looping board (left side of photo): Saturnworks 1-to-4 active isolated splitter->2 outputs to Ernie Ball A/B volume/pan pedal, 1 output to Dunlop DVP3 volume pedal->A/B pedal outputs to TC Electronics Ditto +2 loopers, DVP3 output to EHX 1440 looper->looper outputs to Saturnworks 3-into-1 active isolated summing box with individual channel switches->Boss LM-2 limiter. power supply: Gator GTR-PWR-8. frame: Pedaltrain 1 c.2010.

[gila_crisis]

Mini setup for a noise/drone gig I have Monday evening, where I'll have my Looperlative LP2 looper totally controlled by a MAX MSP patch I've programmed on my computer! It's gonna be wild and random as never before, the only part I can control are the sound I?m feeding into the looper!!!

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ANd heres the video on the live performance!
I must admit I had such a fun, bespite not being able to control anything ahahahahahah



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhJ9VKstkZA

[coldbrightsunlight]

Hmm link is not working. But cool performance!

[gila_crisis]

Hmm link is not working. But cool performance!

Thanks! I?ve edited the post and added also the link to the video.