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jirodreamsofdank wrote:... the North Korean government is closing in on its 70th anniversary, pretty sure we're several generations past the "legitimizing" stage.
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…...........................…psychic vampire. wrote:The important take away from this thread: Taoism and Ring Modulators go together?
jirodreamsofdank wrote:... the North Korean government is closing in on its 70th anniversary, pretty sure we're several generations past the "legitimizing" stage.
D.o.S. wrote:Well, even before we get to the fact that the only thing that actually came out of the meeting was a carefully worded commitment --- that doesn't actually commit to anything -- the North Korean state now have enough imagery for their propaganda that they can live on for decades, at least.
I'm not particularly sure what's particularly cool about giving a tyrannical government the opportunity to boast about being worthy of sitting at the same table with the US President as an equal nation, since it's mostly just making it easier for horrible people to stay in power and keep an entire country subdued.
But, again, I'm sure this is not as bad as MSNBC.
D.o.S. wrote:What I mean by being worthy of is that's the value of a meeting with the US President has, both for the purpose of international and domestic politics w.r.t. North Korea.
I'll be more explicit: You'd have to be deluded or naive if you think the North Korean state propaganda machine isn't going to take this and turn it into propaganda about how the States are so afraid of North Korea's nukes that they're willing to meet with Kim, stop military exercises, and withdraw their nukes. So, effectively, we've made it easier for them to brainwash their general public.
Is this worth it? I don't think so, especially since, according to Trump, we were granting this sit down because the US wanted "complete, irreversible, and verifiable denuclearization of North Korea." I'm not sure if you've read the declaration, but I challenge you to find the words "irreversible", "verifiable," and "North" in there. Like you said, it's never going to happen. So why fucking sit down with them?
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BossMann73 wrote:I didn't insult it......I "curated" a "different aesthetic.".
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jirodreamsofdank wrote:Again: the North Korean state is 70 years old and the most important client state of a superpower. You're hand-wringing about nothing - this is not some upstart junta that needs outside recognition to secure control.
Because they exist and they're not going anywhere. Normalization of relations beats the opposite. Ending war games - and the entire US military presence in South Korea - is something that should have happened without the summit anyway, so why am I supposed to be mad about that?
The downsides, as you've outlined them, is that North Korea has received a propaganda coup. So what?
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Lurker13 wrote:But when I went to the store today, two old people who looked like they didn't have two synapses to connect between the two of them were yadda-yaddaing about how great Trump is and how he deserves a Nobel ducking Peace Prize.
Inconuucl wrote:You can't kill Strymon, it'll just resurrect 3 days later.
BitchPudding wrote:Despite all my rage, I am still just eating tacos in a cage.
Inconuucl wrote:Welcome to ilf, we have three jokes and twelve posters. <3
jrfox92 wrote:Lurker13 wrote:But when I went to the store today, two old people who looked like they didn't have two synapses to connect between the two of them were yadda-yaddaing about how great Trump is and how he deserves a Nobel ducking Peace Prize.
I mean...
he deserves it more than a certain previous president did.
…...........................…psychic vampire. wrote:The important take away from this thread: Taoism and Ring Modulators go together?
Inconuucl wrote:You can't kill Strymon, it'll just resurrect 3 days later.
BitchPudding wrote:Despite all my rage, I am still just eating tacos in a cage.
Inconuucl wrote:Welcome to ilf, we have three jokes and twelve posters. <3
jrfox92 wrote:Lurker13 wrote:But when I went to the store today, two old people who looked like they didn't have two synapses to connect between the two of them were yadda-yaddaing about how great Trump is and how he deserves a Nobel ducking Peace Prize.
I mean...
he deserves it more than a certain previous president did.
coldbrightsunlight wrote:Hey man, you can do what you want in this den of shame.
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