emptyparadigm wrote:samzadgan wrote:DoS...i had a listen to that album...nice work man...it really spaced me out.
so...New Year, and new band! Crimson Ritual ended when my band mate suffered some sever mental health issues late last year. He's fine now (physically anyway), but he's moved back to his parents place outside the city and is just taking it easy. It's a real shame, because when he was stable, he was a really nice guy...and plus we just clicked musically.
So new band is another 2 piece, but its me on guitar and noise and band mate on drums, which is different for me, because i need to write riffs to a beat. Last week we had our first jam, which went awesome. I had a couple of parts worked out for it, and we jammed it out and we quickly got it to a point where we have the best part of a song done...just need to tighten it up and maybe add some colour to it. I'm also, for the first time going to try my hand at vocals - inaudible death metal growls - so that should be interesting.
so the question is, what effects do people use on vocal's? do you even need vocal effects? im thinking maybe some reverb??
by the way...new band name might be Jackals Peak.
Hell yes on new band. Dig the name too.
Conky is right that I use a Mic Mechanic. Or did. I couldn't fit it on my tiny board for the fly in shows, so I went without vocal effects and just had the FOH guy put delay/verb on mine. It sounded just as good and I didn't have to fuck with extra cables or anything. That said, the MM rules. Super intuitive, and the echo + verb settings rule. As others have said, don't use the tone function -- instant feedback. You could also go for the blue Voicelive Play box -- that's what Phil uses now, and it's got tons of cool things including delay, echo, harmonies, distortion/megaphone.
On an unrelated note, I scored an Orange Thunderverb 200 for under a grand. Initial thoughts are that it rules, but it's weird using amp gain again (the thing haaaaaaates my Quantum Mystic, sadly). The downside of using amp gain is that I have to cable up my time-based stuff in the loop, which isn't a huge deal but just means more cables to tote around. On the plus side, slamming it with the Black Forest with just a tiny bit of gain makes the dirt sound massive. Going to take all of my dirt pedals to the practice space today and really dig into it.
Now, while it sounds good, part of me doesn't want to rethink my whole pedalboard/tone deal. But touring weeks at a time with my V4 or V2, both of which are 40+ years old, seems like a bad idea even with a killer backup (have a ToneBlock 201 arriving today). So, I figured I'd ask this: is there a new(ish) amp that is loud, clean, and reliable other than going with something ungodly expensive like a Science Mother? I saw that EHX reissued the Mig50, and I'd like to try one out, but 50 watts means way less clean headroom and I haven't been able to find any reviews on the amp's reliability. But they go used for under 500 bucks, so maybe that's the ticket?
Also, I need to sell some of my stockpile of amps. Holy shit I have a wall in my office now.
ryan summit wrote:Damn these fuckin bullshit techherpes
D.o.S. wrote:The thing about the Sovteks is that the QC is totally hit or miss -- Pope's posted a bunch of horror stories about trying to get his up and running, mine played a lot nicer than his but would go through occasional spurts of eating fuses like Tic Tacs -- but most that I've seen/played have had their share of loveable quirks... and while that's defensible/part and parcel when you're buying a $350-400 tube head, but the value is totally lost (IMO) for the prices they go for now.
fcknoise wrote:You are all fucking tryhard effort posting nerds
Invisible Man wrote:I'm probably the most humble person I know. I feel good about smelling my own butthole.
Jesus Was a Robot wrote:Did you just assume Billy Corgan's dildo preference??
misterstomach wrote:emptyparadigm wrote:samzadgan wrote:DoS...i had a listen to that album...nice work man...it really spaced me out.
so...New Year, and new band! Crimson Ritual ended when my band mate suffered some sever mental health issues late last year. He's fine now (physically anyway), but he's moved back to his parents place outside the city and is just taking it easy. It's a real shame, because when he was stable, he was a really nice guy...and plus we just clicked musically.
So new band is another 2 piece, but its me on guitar and noise and band mate on drums, which is different for me, because i need to write riffs to a beat. Last week we had our first jam, which went awesome. I had a couple of parts worked out for it, and we jammed it out and we quickly got it to a point where we have the best part of a song done...just need to tighten it up and maybe add some colour to it. I'm also, for the first time going to try my hand at vocals - inaudible death metal growls - so that should be interesting.
so the question is, what effects do people use on vocal's? do you even need vocal effects? im thinking maybe some reverb??
by the way...new band name might be Jackals Peak.
Hell yes on new band. Dig the name too.
Conky is right that I use a Mic Mechanic. Or did. I couldn't fit it on my tiny board for the fly in shows, so I went without vocal effects and just had the FOH guy put delay/verb on mine. It sounded just as good and I didn't have to fuck with extra cables or anything. That said, the MM rules. Super intuitive, and the echo + verb settings rule. As others have said, don't use the tone function -- instant feedback. You could also go for the blue Voicelive Play box -- that's what Phil uses now, and it's got tons of cool things including delay, echo, harmonies, distortion/megaphone.
On an unrelated note, I scored an Orange Thunderverb 200 for under a grand. Initial thoughts are that it rules, but it's weird using amp gain again (the thing haaaaaaates my Quantum Mystic, sadly). The downside of using amp gain is that I have to cable up my time-based stuff in the loop, which isn't a huge deal but just means more cables to tote around. On the plus side, slamming it with the Black Forest with just a tiny bit of gain makes the dirt sound massive. Going to take all of my dirt pedals to the practice space today and really dig into it.
Now, while it sounds good, part of me doesn't want to rethink my whole pedalboard/tone deal. But touring weeks at a time with my V4 or V2, both of which are 40+ years old, seems like a bad idea even with a killer backup (have a ToneBlock 201 arriving today). So, I figured I'd ask this: is there a new(ish) amp that is loud, clean, and reliable other than going with something ungodly expensive like a Science Mother? I saw that EHX reissued the Mig50, and I'd like to try one out, but 50 watts means way less clean headroom and I haven't been able to find any reviews on the amp's reliability. But they go used for under 500 bucks, so maybe that's the ticket?
Also, I need to sell some of my stockpile of amps. Holy shit I have a wall in my office now.
Hi. I haven't posted much in forever. I still read the forum all the time though. Hope everyone is doing well enough. All things considered.
Anyway, for what it's worth, I thought i'd offer my two cents. I know nothing about the new sovteks, but if the old ones are any indication, I would agree with everyone else to avoid them if reliability is your primary concern. Having had the pleasure of seeing/hearing your band a couple of times, your guitar tone is fucking sick and is something I really value in this world. I'd hate to see it compromised. I've spent a lot of my life on tour with old amps. My band obviously is not playing shows on the level that you guys are doing right now. I guess we occasionally do some like that, but generally you know what I'm saying. But I did tech/roadie stuff for a good while with a band that was playing big ass shows every day for months at a time. In general, I've found that a well made old amp that is well maintained performs pretty much as well as well as a well made new amp that is well maintained. Including an old v4. The difference primarily being that the newer amps usually don't sound as good. The old amps tend to be more sensitive to being tragically dropped. But, if your touring hard you should have the heads in cases anyway. My opinion, which isn't really worth anything special, but this is the Internet, so I'll pretend it matters, is that a band that's regularly playing the the type of shows you guys are doing should use the amps that get you the best tone, assuming it's reasonably reliable. Then get a backup amp to bring on tour that will work for either guitar player. Or possibly even the bass player as well. There comes a time when you should have a backup amp regardless. So why not just maintain your amp well that gives you the best sound and make a compromise if you have to when that breaks? Which it probably won't. I mean, if you have a whole wall of extra amps sitting around, why not pick one that's really sweet that isn't your main amp and throw that in the van/trailer as the backup?
All that being said, mesa f series are pretty sweet. A very overlooked part of the mesa line that seems to be stupid cheap on the used market.
fcknoise wrote:You are all fucking tryhard effort posting nerds
Invisible Man wrote:I'm probably the most humble person I know. I feel good about smelling my own butthole.
Jesus Was a Robot wrote:Did you just assume Billy Corgan's dildo preference??
AxAxSxS wrote:...if its a loud tube amp....
Iommic Pope wrote:Amps first, makeup sex later.
odontophobia wrote:I enjoyed both tracks upon initial listen.
I didn't hate the last Mastodo album. It was palatable to good.
D.o.S. wrote:Nah that's not fair to Pallbearer -- that new track is a banger, for sure.
I kind of feel like over the last 5-10 years the bands that seem to be catching on seem to be a little less forward thinking, yeah. Not that every band has to do that (or should want to do that), and obviously I'm just one voice on the internet or in person, but I feel like everything is getting a little too codified for my taste -- there's less and less overlap on bills, splits, festivals, etc.
You just get this nice little FFFO bubble where if you like one band on the bill you're going to love every band on the bill because they're drawing from the same wellspring. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I do feel that it's a little less engaging mentally (even if sometimes all you want to do is pound cheap pints and revel in a crowdwide love of Thin Lizzy or Motorhead or Priest or Sabbath or w/e).
Obvious reiteration: just one dude voicing an observation.
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