The Slow Secret Death of the Electric Guitar

[$harkToootth]

I like...a lot...of djent. Although I think I prefer just the djent guitar players rather than a finished polished album. Some of those sound a tad over produced. RIP Justin Lowe. I enjoyed his playing a lot in AFTER THE BURIAL.

Also, declining sales at Guitar Center, Sam Ash, and Gibson are not great key metrics for consumption. People are just tired of getting ripped off. Not that I care if guitar playing is declining...cause I don't...also what Mathias said.

I think what's going to happen is comesect and I are going to start a fartcore band.

[$harkToootth]

Final thought: Everyone knows Nü Mêtål is coming back this year, so the young ones will be back at Guitar Center in no time. QIII will be prosperous for all over priced retailers.

[Lurker13]

Also, declining sales at Guitar Center, Sam Ash, and Gibson are not great key metrics for consumption. People are just tired of getting ripped off. Not that I care if guitar playing is declining...cause I don't...also what Mathias said.

I don't think their selling prices are ripoffs, but their buying prices certainly are. You are far better off selling gear privately.


What I detest about GC is their customer service, which in my experience, deserves its infamous reputation. They seem to be staffed by anti-salespeople instead of salespeople, because most of them are so self-absorbed they don't give a shit if a customer buys gear or gets pissed about being neglected and walks out the door. To call their customer service 'shit' is an understatement, because it is shit so vile it could only come from the deepest, dankest, most disgusting part of the sewer. The truly amazing part is that this seems to have become embedded in the company's culture. So if they go belly up, I sure won't miss them.

I think what's going to happen is comesect and I are going to start a fartcore band.

Far out, man, we'll pay you in baked beans.

[mathias]

Also not brought up in the article: The internet is changing all retailers, not just musical instrument retailers.

[$harkToootth]

Far out, man, we'll pay you in baked beans.

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[mathias]

Just looked it up on Wikipedia to be sure. Sousa average 400 shows per year for 39 years. Or to put it in raw numbers, he had 15,623 concerts over 39 years.

[rustywire]

Should I make conspicuous pasta out of the nsfw part of my prev post itt?

[jrfox92]

What I detest about GC is their customer service, which in my experience, deserves its infamous reputation. They seem to be staffed by anti-salespeople instead of salespeople, because most of them are so self-absorbed they don't give a shit if a customer buys gear or gets pissed about being neglected and walks out the door. To call their customer service 'shit' is an understatement, because it is shit so vile it could only come from the deepest, dankest, most disgusting part of the sewer. The truly amazing part is that this seems to have become embedded in the company's culture. So if they go belly up, I sure won't miss them.

100% accurate.
The two local guitar shops near me are way better than GC when it comes to service, even if they're not quite the same with gear (although, one of them is pretty close).
One shop is basically just the tiny little corner shop owned by old dudes that don't really know anything about gear made after the '80s, but they're still pretty good at being friendly and whatnot.
The other shop is more like GC, but with the stuff you'd actually want (i.e. Orange Amps, Jazzmasters, Ricks, etc.), plus they have salespeople that are willing to nerd out about gear with you instead of just dejectedly responding with "uh huh, we can order that thing for you" and walking away.

[mathias]

The "kids today have no patience" trope is also an old one. I suspect we could go back through recorded history and find examples of every generation being ridiculed for their lack of interest in something.

No one learns Latin anymore as part of a basic education, unless they really want to. I suspect making music on instruments will be the same. You don't learn to play guitar -- not unless you really want to. Software will continue to make things more accessible and allow more variations, and the internet will allow more niches.

Really, this is sidestepping a whole different rant about how western music, notation, scales, instruments with frets, etc., is all just a simplification of sound and what noises sounded good to people in the past. Synths and software are move musicians more towards an understanding that sound is waves of continuous values (not the hard steps of a scale). Is Western music dying or going away, though? Unlikely.

[comesect2.0]

theres always some kinda news report hyping the change, didnt take a look at that article, more things change more they stay the same only more polished/refined for shock value...naw take that back leave it to beaver v.s. todays t.v. shows.....,Hopefully new tech will help all understand everything is "music", and yeah the seekers shall find when they apply themselves threw time, and master!
im in collaboration right now actually on a country western noise ensemble...best we got so far is a rehearsed freeform jam...our only song is "im in love with Jodie Foster" & maybe some covers....only requirement to join is you must wear boots.

still tryin to figure out a name, somthin simple like, underbrush...hmmm or chicken teeth......idk...

[$harkToootth]

Remember when the ancient Greeks were upset when people started writing stories on paper?
"Omg! nobody is orating anymore...lost art...the kids these days don't want to tell stories...they just want to read them cause they have no patience...eeeehhhhh"

chicken teeth

[comesect2.0]

thats no joke, story telling is a lost art. for real....like watch the original jungle book film by zoltan Korda, first 10 minutes shows what im sayin.

the intensity of it.

[$harkToootth]

I have the whole Eclipse Sabu box set, those movies are dope. I was trying to get at...it's fine. Something else will take its place. Like, we read paperbacks for a while, now we read tablets. All is okay...until it isn't.

[$harkToootth]

Actually speaking of intensity and Paul Pope. The first few panels of BATMAN: YEAR 100 are INTENSE!

[dozicusmaximus]

still tryin to figure out a name, somthin simple like, underbrush...hmmm or chicken teeth......idk...

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