Empress: Echosystem



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Re: Empress: Echosystem

Postby echorec » Thu May 04, 2017 4:40 pm

So today's launch day, has anyone pulled the trigger yet?
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Re: Empress: Echosystem

Postby Antlerface » Thu May 04, 2017 9:17 pm

A few dude I know already ordered, someone was saying theirs should be here early next week. Looks sick, I wish I got along w pedals w lots of options.
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Re: Empress: Echosystem

Postby worra » Thu May 04, 2017 9:52 pm

Mine arrives Wednesday. I'll try to have a video next weekendish.
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Re: Empress: Echosystem

Postby damnableman » Thu May 04, 2017 10:40 pm

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Re: Empress: Echosystem

Postby damnableman » Fri May 05, 2017 12:00 am

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Re: Empress: Echosystem

Postby peaches » Fri May 05, 2017 6:56 am

I ordered from Rogue Guitar Shop (as did ruiner I think?) but I haven't heard anything about shipping yet.
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Re: Empress: Echosystem

Postby mr. sound boy king » Fri May 05, 2017 11:24 am

I'd rather have nine $50 delay pedals than one $450 delay pedal. Imagine how much delay you could get out of nine delays... a lot more than 1.2 seconds.

Plus you could run up to nine delay modes at once and that is drugs.
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Re: Empress: Echosystem

Postby echorec » Fri May 05, 2017 11:55 am

mr. sound boy king wrote:I'd rather have nine $50 delay pedals than one $450 delay pedal. Imagine how much delay you could get out of nine delays... a lot more than 1.2 seconds.

Plus you could run up to nine delay modes at once and that is drugs.


I imagine you're half-joking, but I tried to do that years ago, and unfortunately effects just cancel each other out at a certain point. :cry:

ex: about 5 reverbs = insane sustain, washout
after that, you're effectively negating the weaker effects, or you're adding subtleties that could only be measured by machines, not by the human ear

ex: 2 Moog phasers = lush, delightful modulation
3 Moog phasers = you can barely tell there's a third one there

Here's an actual example, though, of 16 delays in series. ---Basically it sounds like about 3-5 pedals (delay/rev/delay, or delay/delay/rev or delay x 5, or rev/delay/delay/rev).

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Re: Empress: Echosystem

Postby mr. sound boy king » Fri May 05, 2017 12:51 pm

Yes, chaining 9 delays is a joke and I agree with your assessments. I hope all who acquire Echosystem find heretofore unknown delights.
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Re: Empress: Echosystem

Postby echorec » Fri May 05, 2017 1:30 pm

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Re: Empress: Echosystem

Postby tremolo3 » Fri May 05, 2017 1:33 pm

echorec wrote:I imagine you're half-joking, but I tried to do that years ago, and unfortunately effects just cancel each other out at a certain point. :cry:


You don't stack that many effects IN SERIES into 1 (or even 2) amps. I'd get the 9 $50 delays, but I only have 5 amps.
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Re: Empress: Echosystem

Postby echorec » Fri May 05, 2017 1:54 pm

tremolo3 wrote:
echorec wrote:I imagine you're half-joking, but I tried to do that years ago, and unfortunately effects just cancel each other out at a certain point. :cry:


You don't stack that many effects IN SERIES into 1 (or even 2) amps. I'd get the 9 $50 delays, but I only have 5 amps.


I'd buy a calculator, a spectrograph, and some dehydrated ice cream, before I'd buy 9 amps.
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Re: Empress: Echosystem

Postby echorec » Thu May 11, 2017 11:10 pm

Finally, a little bit of Whisky & Stutter.





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Re: Empress: Echosystem

Postby jrfox92 » Thu May 11, 2017 11:53 pm

I don't know why, but the more demos there are of this, the less interested I become.
Honestly, I've never been a "delay machine" kind of guy, but something about this turns me off even more? :idk:
Maybe it's just that the difference between the cheapies and the expensive pedals is getting so indistinguishable that I just can't get excited about that stuff, anymore and I'm getting more into the idea that I should just buy a rack effect that's been this good for probably 20+ years, does tons more stuff, and is probably close to the same price as a new one of these? :?: :whoa:
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Re: Empress: Echosystem

Postby worra » Fri May 12, 2017 2:49 am

Happy to do a video of mine if people have specific things they wanna hear. A comprehensive demo would be...long.
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