The NAMM 2017 thread

Hobbes96 · Post by **Hobbes96** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:08 pm

Oh gat dawmn that black st. vincent. I realllly don't need to get any more guitars, but....

DRodriguez · Post by **DRodriguez** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:30 pm

The new Chase Bliss pedal is gold. My money is on fuzz.

Strange Tales · Post by **Strange Tales** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:31 pm

Bummer. I hope it's not a fuzz and it's something exciting. Chase Bliss does way too many cool things to fuck around with fuzz.

DRodriguez · Post by **DRodriguez** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:36 pm

But imagine if his fun mind found a cool way to fuck around with fuzz.

Strange Tales · Post by **Strange Tales** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:42 pm

I'd rather him fuck around with anything else. Bitcrushing, Envelope Generation, VCA+Envelopes, Filters, Digitally controlled Sample Rate Reduction, Morphing Octave Generation. Literally anything else.

whoismarykelly · Post by **whoismarykelly** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:49 pm

Fuzz is boring as fuck. There I said it.

Inconuucl · Post by **Inconuucl** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:52 pm

whoismarykelly wrote:Fuzz is boring as fuck. There I said it.

I mean, I love fuzz (tm). But it's true, it's not an innovative ground for pedals.

Anything "new" that I've seen in the realm of fuzz lately just sounds the same or worse than what came before.

DRodriguez · Post by **DRodriguez** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:01 pm

I agree for the most part, but I also love all the variations there are of dirt. Would also rather something else from Joel, but I'm sure lots of people will be happy with some breakup

Disarm D'arcy · Post by **Disarm D'arcy** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:38 pm

Inconuucl wrote:
whoismarykelly wrote:Fuzz is boring as fuck. There I said it.
I mean, I love fuzz (tm). But it's true, it's not an innovative ground for pedals. Anything "new" that I've seen in the realm of fuzz lately just sounds the same or worse than what came before.

It's true that most of the innovation around fuzz lies within design / features and not really actual sound. Though I think INFANEMs are unimpeachable in terms of sound

baremountain · Post by **baremountain** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:49 pm

Inconuucl wrote:
whoismarykelly wrote:Fuzz is boring as fuck. There I said it.
I mean, I love fuzz (tm). But it's true, it's not an innovative ground for pedals. Anything "new" that I've seen in the realm of fuzz lately just sounds the same or worse than what came before.

I agree with this like 99.9%, but uhhhh, the Pretty Years

I mean, that's not just a fuzz of course, and that's what makes it so versatile. But with CBA the ability to ramp fuzz parameters in real time without interacting with the knobs at all is a pretty nice innovation, wouldn't you say? It's not like they'd forget their dipswitches if they are releasing a fuzz. I would like to see something else, but I wouldn't complain about having a fuzz that could automatically raise & lower its gain/bias/EQ. Maybe that's just me though

echorec · Post by **echorec** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:02 pm

I came across three new goodies today. The afore-mentioned golden Chase Bliss, a tweaked CBread foundation overdrive, and this synth-inspired filter from EHX. Fugly? --Sure, but for $137, I might give it a whirl. The Blurst should be available this month; no street date is available on the others.

Strange Tales · Post by **Strange Tales** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:07 pm

baremountain wrote:
Inconuucl wrote:
whoismarykelly wrote:Fuzz is boring as fuck. There I said it.
I mean, I love fuzz (tm). But it's true, it's not an innovative ground for pedals. Anything "new" that I've seen in the realm of fuzz lately just sounds the same or worse than what came before.
I agree with this like 99.9%, but uhhhh, the Pretty Years
I mean, that's not just a fuzz of course, and that's what makes it so versatile. But with CBA the ability to ramp fuzz parameters in real time without interacting with the knobs at all is a pretty nice innovation, wouldn't you say? It's not like they'd forget their dipswitches if they are releasing a fuzz. I would like to see something else, but I wouldn't complain about having a fuzz that could automatically raise & lower its gain/bias/EQ. Maybe that's just me though

Pretty Years is based on the WASP filter design, I'd be hard pressed to call that a fuzz first and foremost. I think it does have some sort of OD/Fuzz design since it has mutliple gain stages as well, but the WASP filter is super well known for being able to distort well.

whoismarykelly · Post by **whoismarykelly** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:21 pm

baremountain wrote:
Inconuucl wrote:
whoismarykelly wrote:Fuzz is boring as fuck. There I said it.
I mean, I love fuzz (tm). But it's true, it's not an innovative ground for pedals. Anything "new" that I've seen in the realm of fuzz lately just sounds the same or worse than what came before.
I agree with this like 99.9%, but uhhhh, the Pretty Years
I mean, that's not just a fuzz of course, and that's what makes it so versatile. But with CBA the ability to ramp fuzz parameters in real time without interacting with the knobs at all is a pretty nice innovation, wouldn't you say? It's not like they'd forget their dipswitches if they are releasing a fuzz. I would like to see something else, but I wouldn't complain about having a fuzz that could automatically raise & lower its gain/bias/EQ. Maybe that's just me though

The idea is cool but what you would end up with is either a tremolo or a modulated wah or a phaser or whatever that just always has dirt on it. Its less cool and more gimmicky in practice. See the Cusack Tap-a-scream.

Ruiner · Post by **Ruiner** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:22 pm

Strange Tales wrote: Pretty Years is based on the WASP filter design, I'd be hard pressed to call that a fuzz first and foremost. I think it does have some sort of OD/Fuzz design since it has mutliple gain stages as well, but the WASP filter is super well known for being able to distort well.

I thought it was inspired by the Thermionic Culture Vuture?