We are a community of white male privilege and comsumerism.

psychic vampire. · Post by **psychic vampire.** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 11:00 pm

Talking about race in america/on the internet in an exercise in... frustration, to say the least. I read the safe spaces thread with interest but had a hard time knowing where to chime in or if it was even appropriate to do so in a community I am so new to. The fact is there probably is a large percentage of white (straight) males in this community, but also those identities are the assumed norm, especially on the internet, and obviously not everyone here is those things, or it kind of erases the people who don't fit the mould. But, trying to type out all my thoughts on the internet is a pain.

I am not a male.

IEatCats · Post by **IEatCats** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 11:08 pm

psychic vampire. wrote:Talking about race in america/on the internet in an exercise in... frustration, to say the least. I read the safe spaces thread with interest but had a hard time knowing where to chime in or if it was even appropriate to do so in a community I am so new to. The fact is there probably is a large percentage of white (straight) males in this community, but also those identities are the assumed norm, especially on the internet, and obviously not everyone here is those things, or it kind of erases the people who don't fit the mould. But, trying to type out all my thoughts on the internet is a pain.

I am not a male.

I wouldn't worry about being new in the community, this place is about as welcoming as forums get without losing the sarcasm and wild-west sensibilities that the internet deserves.

We need to make this place more diverse.

Somebody put an ILF ad up on worldstarhiphop, i'm sure that'll make something happen.

psychic vampire. · Post by **psychic vampire.** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 11:16 pm

Oh this is a very welcoming forum, I love it. I am just not in the habit of tryna be all "have you heard MY opinions about race/gender/sexuality/whatever" with most people, because the primary lesson I ha e learned from years of talking about that shit is to approach it with nuance and humility, and that shit is hard on the fucking internet.

Suffice to say, it's a fine line between my disdain for "legitimate voices" and my concurrent belief that shit out there is way worse than many people realize.

kbit · Post by **kbit** » Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:32 am

I appreciate your responses, I' not very good at putting my feelings on this subject in words but reading your responses gives me more food for thought. And im glad it's been welcoming here

Gone Fission · Post by **Gone Fission** » Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:43 am

MSUsousaphone wrote:I'm one tenth Hungarian. That gets me a scholarship or something, right?

Maybe it's that it's past my bedtime, but I'm baffled by the heredity math that can make anyone a tenth anything.

John · Post by **John** » Sun Dec 13, 2015 3:26 am

Gone Fission wrote:
MSUsousaphone wrote:I'm one tenth Hungarian. That gets me a scholarship or something, right?
Maybe it's that it's past my bedtime, but I'm baffled by the heredity math that can make anyone a tenth anything.

The closest one could get is 3/32nds.

Iommic Pope · Post by **Iommic Pope** » Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:46 am

I call everyone "man" regardless of gender.
Am I a bad person?
Probably.
Am I lazy?
Fuck yes.

kbit · Post by **kbit** » Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:13 am

I do the same thing

psychic vampire. · Post by **psychic vampire.** » Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:50 am

There was a time in my life where I would have been VERY upset to be called man. The world wore me down so it now rates somewhere on my list of "Things I Don't Have The Fucking Energy To Be Hurt By."

MSUsousaphone · Post by **MSUsousaphone** » Sun Dec 13, 2015 12:05 pm

John wrote:
Gone Fission wrote:
MSUsousaphone wrote:I'm one tenth Hungarian. That gets me a scholarship or something, right?
Maybe it's that it's past my bedtime, but I'm baffled by the heredity math that can make anyone a tenth anything.
The closest one could get is 3/32nds.

There can be all kinds of combinations and multiple ethnicities on either either sides of a person's genogram.

Race is weird. We're all so mixed now. And a lot of times we identify with a minority of my mixture. I want to do one of those expensive DNA tests to trace my family's origin. That I know if I am all Caucasian. Like a saltine cracker. I think it would be cool to find other lineage. But as I know of I have no Native American in me. My wife is like 1/8 Native American. Her family kept up and taught a lot of that culture to her growing up and she identifies with it.

I now am in charge of seven kids who are possibly 1/16 Native American and I am, not to my knowledge, Native American at all but are most definitely raising them with elements heavily influenced by that culture. I'm sure some of them will identify themselves as heavily Native American. But to most people we're just whities.

It seems as simple as teaching our differences but treating eachother equally. But fuck have we taken steps backwards recently.

John · Post by **John** » Sun Dec 13, 2015 1:20 pm

kbit wrote:
John wrote:I'm a little sad that I don't feel comfortable replying to the OP. All I can say is that when I first started posting here I got shouted down for arguing that we do not live in "post-racial" America yet. My main point was that if there are still people alive who had to drink from separate water fountains, then we are not post racial yet. Don't remember the specifics or the people involved (other than dubkitty who went berzerk and then apologized via PM), but the evidence that we are somehow past racism was that one white guy got beat up by black kids, another complained that everyone in his college is too PC, etc. I don't see how that shit proved anything other than that we have a long way to go, but basically I was told to shut up with my opinions because this place is about FUZZ and not politics. I agree with that sentiment, but according to that logic then nobody should have brought it up in the first place.
I'm sorry that happened, dude

Hey it wasn't too bad cuz I'm still here! It just felt a lot more like being on teh internets than the other message board I chill at.

Gone Fission · Post by **Gone Fission** » Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:07 pm

MSUsousaphone wrote:
John wrote:
Gone Fission wrote:
MSUsousaphone wrote:I'm one tenth Hungarian. That gets me a scholarship or something, right?
Maybe it's that it's past my bedtime, but I'm baffled by the heredity math that can make anyone a tenth anything.
The closest one could get is 3/32nds.
There can be all kinds of combinations and multiple ethnicities on either either sides of a person's genogram.

I get that, and it looks like John does, too. We're talking about how fractions work. I'm having trouble seeing how anybody is a tenth anything without rounding up or down.

WayToHip · Post by **WayToHip** » Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:44 pm

goroth wrote:
WayToHip wrote:Why does it have to be "White male privilege?" Anyone can learn music, and then fuzzify it. It is just a coincidence that most if not all of us are white, and males.

I was trying to be serious, but I may have been drunk. I guess the Western/Northern Hemisphere society has the benefit of internet and loads of free time, so the ability or desire to talk about our passions to the entire world is great and easy. I agree with kbit, we are more or less white dudes wanting what other white dudes have/do/make.

casecandy · Post by **casecandy** » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:24 am

I'm a pretty white person, overall.

ilovefuzz.com

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