Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:03 pm
Ugly Nora wrote:Alien - My apologies if any of my comments felt like an attack on you, i was being sarcastic. I showed this thread to my girlfriend and she yelled at me for arguing for the wrong side.
Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:13 pm
_themissingshade_ wrote:infamousalien wrote:cherler wrote:You can't see the difference between naming a beer dick smasher and this add? There's a pretty huge difference, besides which genitalia are referenced.
My whole point was sometimes a bad joke is just a bad joke and there is not some sinister misogynist nazi conspiracy about everything. You don't need to go hunting for sexism because there is a lot of actual sexism occurring in everyday life all around.
Because you are getting so many replies so quickly, my own reply might just look like a pile on, but I merely want to make sense of things.
I don't think you are a nazi. But I do think that perhaps you have a misconception about sexism. You say there is a lot of actual sexism occurring in everyday life, well, is this TC example not everyday life? Even if we assume in good faith that it was "just a bad joke" with no intended harm, the matter remains that a number of employees agreed, tacitly or otherwise, that the joke was okay. The implication of this is that all the employees responsible are not questioning the rather blatant optics problem right in front of them. On the most charitable interpretation of events, they are acting analogously to people who "don't see race". The people who don't see race are the exact set of people who are unaffected by issues of race. The people who deny or try to downplay this type of misogyny are the people who don't live life being harassed, devalued, underpaid, and oppressed. At least, not due to their gender. This whole conversation can be avoided by people, particularly people with public voices, demonstrating a bit more respect and sensitivity to the way life is like for people that do not start their lives on the easiest difficulty setting.
Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:15 pm
Ugly Nora wrote:Alien - My apologies if any of my comments felt like an attack on you, i was being sarcastic. I showed this thread to my girlfriend and she yelled at me for arguing for the wrong side.
Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:18 pm
jrfox92 wrote:infamous alien irl:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:58 pm
infamousalien wrote:I actually appreciated your well thought out reply the most. You made a lot of really good points I didn't think about. I think I was looking at it from a comedy/free speech perspective (because the band is a comedy band) and not a corporate responsibility perspective. I see the difference now. I don't think I have a misconception about sexism I was just looking at it through a different lense. I see how what a comedian or band might say isn't the same as a major corporation doing the same thing. I'm just a super free speech advocate and I know free speech means protecting speech I don't agree with. I still don't think there was malice behind it just really poor judgement.
Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:30 pm
Ugly Nora wrote:Alien - My apologies if any of my comments felt like an attack on you, i was being sarcastic. I showed this thread to my girlfriend and she yelled at me for arguing for the wrong side.
Ugly Nora wrote:Ha Ha Ha and all, Chank, but it is not a far leap for the misogynists to go from saying women should stay in the kitchen, to saying they should be put in the oven.
Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:43 pm
Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:45 pm
multi_s wrote:fantano weighs inUgly Nora wrote:Alien - My apologies if any of my comments felt like an attack on you, i was being sarcastic. I showed this thread to my girlfriend and she yelled at me for arguing for the wrong side.
ya i wasn;t sure if alien had caught that either but thought it was pretty obv after this sort of goldUgly Nora wrote:Ha Ha Ha and all, Chank, but it is not a far leap for the misogynists to go from saying women should stay in the kitchen, to saying they should be put in the oven.
also alien i think D.o.S was just excited that it looked like England had a chance to win the world cup (football comments) but since then they lost to Croatia and will not advance to the final.
Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:49 pm
Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:51 pm
Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:52 pm
jrfox92 wrote:That's because people aren't using the designated sarcasm font color.
Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:53 pm
jrfox92 wrote:That's because people aren't using the designated sarcasm font color.
Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:09 pm
D.o.S. wrote:If you have to explain your parody band is a parody you are not nearly as clever as you think you are.
Ghost Hip wrote:As for the band, I'm not familiar with who the fans are, but generally if the people you are making fun of are enjoying and agreeing with your satire, its probably not good satire. Satire should make those it is criticizing uncomfortable. I just imagine teenage boys listening to this shit and internalizing the message of women being disposable pieces of ass.
Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:23 pm
Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:38 pm