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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Dowi » Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:39 pm

BetterOffShred wrote:Jodorowsky would have ruined Dune


Yes, but also no. Lynch has made a mediocre work (and himself has admitted it too), I don't think Jodorowsky would have done something worse.
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Blackened Soul » Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:41 pm

I liked Lynch's Dune better than the book, I think it is the ONLY movie I liked better than the book. It's one of my favorite movies. :idk:
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Heraclitus Akimbo » Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:07 pm

I dunno if this is controversial, but Dune is a weird book... given that it's about a prophecy coming to pass, it's, like, eighty percent people talking about what's going to happen, and then that thing happening.
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby BetterOffShred » Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:57 pm

Ah yes. We are all Dune nerds. Mission accomplished
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Jero » Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:21 am

BetterOffShred wrote:Ah yes. We are all Dune nerds. Mission accomplished

What's not to like about a book with like 20 pages of definitions, before the actual story?
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Dowi » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:14 am

Jero wrote:
BetterOffShred wrote:Ah yes. We are all Dune nerds. Mission accomplished

What's not to like about a book with like 20 pages of definitions, before the actual story?


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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Dapper Bandit » Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:21 am

The Dune movie is OK, not as terrible as certain corners of the internet would have you believe.

It's essentially an unfilmable book though so I think anyone would have a tough time.

The Dune series (when Frank was still writing it, not the son's shitshow) was/is the most ambitious science fiction story ever told.
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby DrMabuse » Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:51 am

Lynch was in the running to direct Return of the Jedi around this time and chose to do Dune instead. I'm not a Star Wars fan, but I would pay money to see that.

I think Lynch's Dune is more palatable to Lynch fans than Frank Herbert fans. It's certainly a flawed movie, but I think another director would have made a equally flawed and possibly less interesting movie. Jodorowsky couldn't have made a good and faithful Dune movie either, but he would have done something interesting too.

Going to reread "Insurance Adjusters of Dune" now to see if it's still as bad as I remember...
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Dowi » Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:20 am

Dapper Bandit wrote:
The Dune series (when Frank was still writing it, not the son's shitshow) was/is the most ambitious science fiction story ever told.


Agreed but I put it at the same level of Asimov Fundation series. :thumb:
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby dubkitty » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:00 am

Blackened Soul wrote: I think it is the ONLY movie I liked better than the book.


Fahrenheit 451. That film is the best favor anyone ever did for Ray Bradbury, who had great storylines but was an atrocious prose stylist in that sort of dreadful post-Hemingway Midwestern deadpan voice.
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Dapper Bandit » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:34 am

Dowi wrote:
Dapper Bandit wrote:
The Dune series (when Frank was still writing it, not the son's shitshow) was/is the most ambitious science fiction story ever told.


Agreed but I put it at the same level of Asimov Fundation series. :thumb:


I really rate the first few Foundation books but towards the end I felt it all got a little far fetched. But then I apparantly had no problem with the 1,000 year Worm-Man Space-Reich so it just goes to show how subjective it all is.

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Blackened Soul wrote: I think it is the ONLY movie I liked better than the book.


Fahrenheit 451. That film is the best favor anyone ever did for Ray Bradbury, who had great storylines but was an atrocious prose stylist in that sort of dreadful post-Hemingway Midwestern deadpan voice.


But in a totalitarian world where books are destroyed, wouldn't flowery prose seem out of place? :?:
Seriously though, Bradbury had what I've always thought of as quite a dry, to the point style of writing but as you say the storylines always made up for it.
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby dubkitty » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:09 am

some of his short stories are quite good, though. i think he was more able to capture a tone other than his typical. there's a really lovely little one about a kid buying new sneakers that i read back in middle school that stuck with me ever since. it's downright lyrical. https://the24hourtala.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/sound-of-summer-running.pdf
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Sonaboy » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:12 pm

BetterOffShred wrote:Jodorowsky would have ruined Dune


Agreed. It was clear he wasn't interested in adhering to much of any of the original material.
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby chuckjaywalk » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:46 pm

I'm going to let y'all finish, but Harlan Ellison was the best of all time
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Jwar » Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:11 pm

Here's my controversial opinions about this shit.

Dune sucks ass and you're all nerds.
Star Wars and Star Trek are both dumb
Lynch is the most overrated director in fucking history. His shit is dumb for the most part. Yes, I like the weird shit too. I liked Twin Peaks and Mulholland Drive and Lost Highway...yada yada yada. No one ever talks about how none of it makes any motherfucking sense. He's too artistic. It's like if Picasso made a movie. Come at me!
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