Chankgeez wrote:(pro tip: don't let Ugly Nora troll you here too )
This is disappointing to read because I wasn't trolling in that other thread. Below is the totality of my posts in question. Please either you, or anybody, show me specifics where I was trolling or being anti women or anti liberal.
Also, I would like to hear specific rebuttals to my overall point of my posts which is the majority of businesses exist to make money, not to push politics/agendas (any agendas), and that when their actions do bump against your personal politics, it is not some big over reaching white guy conspiracy. I would like to hear specifics as to how this is a negative comment in any way, specifically towards liberals or women.
Here is a protip for you and everyone else - just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean that they are trolling, or hateful, or anti whatever, or harbor any negative feelings towards you. Heck, they may even consider you a dear friend. It is called a discussion. Do we want to really live in a world where everyone has to have the same opinion? A good discussion is going to make you passionate, it is going to make you question your beliefs and what you have been told your whole life and taught in school and church, temple, etc. It is going to angry up the blood a little. This is how hearts and minds are changed, and it will be then, and only then, when we are able to move ourselves forward as a society and a species.
Post #1
Maybe they are doing it for far less nefarious reasons, like it sells gear? You don't think a company is smart enough to know which of their ads generate the most sales? Music companies exist to make money, not to be champions of the liberal PC agenda.
In summary, as long as their ads drive sales, they are going to keep doing it. When it stops working, they will shift strategies.
Post #2
I had a bunch more to say, but honestly I am trying to be a nicer person, and I have better things to do right now than argue with internet weirdos (not you specifically -- ILF in general). So I will sum it up like this:
1. I never called you a liberal. Don't twist someone's words to fit your narrative.
2. Music companies (and most companies) exist to make money. They don't exist to push social agenda's (whatever their politics may be). So don't expect their actions in pursuit of money to always be in line with your preferred politics.
a. Companies that don't adapt to changing demograpics and social mores will suffer.
b. Companies know how effective their adverstising is or isn't. If they use sex, for example, and it is not working, and they don't adapt, that is called bad management. It doesn't mean there is some big conspiracy to keep a certain section of the population under their thumb.
3. For the record, I personally don't respond to sex in advertising either. I personally find it insulting, but not offensive. I find it insulting that a company would try to persuade me with such a lowest common denominator tactic. I feel I am smarter than that and prefer to be stimulated intellectually.