The Last Jedi

[Invisible Man]

Have people made that argument?

Also love the though of you MURRRPing your way through some hedge fund office wearing one of those blue Oxford shirts with the white collars.

[dugwolf]

I like your movie vidret. Sad thing is I like probably 90% of the fan-fic versions better that that piece of crap we got.

It feels unfathomable to me how they can't seem to write scripts in hollywood anymore, especially when they have the budgets of small countries but no one seems to go "uh maybe uh bb-8 shouldn't defeat phasma. maybe snoke shouldn't be total throwaway. maybe rey's ancestry shouldn't be completely throwaway either?"

This exactly. I’ll add maybe don’t hire two directors with two completely different visions to tell one story. OF COURSE the second person is just going to throw away everything the first person did.

[dozicusmaximus]

Finally saw this. Didn't really care for it. I was so bored. There was a scene where I'm like when did those two characters get back together?
Also I'm done with the perfect thing that needs to happen, happens for the good guys, shit. I know it's a kids movie, but sometimes it makes me throw my hands up. haha.

Over produced, sterile, fails at trying to be sincere, mimicking what once was- just like a lot of modern music.
Maybe I'm just old and don't feel that magical wonderment about anything anymore.

Overall I'm not really upset or anything. But Disney will ride this til the wheels fall off. Which will be a few more years. What I'm sick of is that anything that is/was great will be exploited until it's steaming pile of trash leaving a bad taste in your mouth. This isn't exclusive to Star Wars. Just Hollywood in general. Shit, music labels/radio too. It's been happening for a looong time. I just can't take it anymore. Now I'm upset.

[BetterOffShred]

^^^
Network was a far better movie. And Ned Beaty doesn't get raped in the woods to boot.

[rustywire]

also.... not to like.... start anything? and mebbe being a white ass dood that has a decent income puts me on the wrong side of discussing Privelege, but..... i dunno. it feels like people saying BEN SWOLLO KEN REY-REY IS THE MODERN BOOGEYMAN BECAUSE HE'S THE EPITOME OF WHITE PRIVELEGE LOOKING TO DESTROY ALL NON WHITE blah blah might be..... reaching?

murp. mebbe that's just me.

It's a discussion already happening, and you aren't on the wrong side of anything for feeling some kinda way about being drawn in.
How you were born is not of your choosing, what you do is something you can influence. Cease marginalizing yourself.
How you actually treat others, especially others who are different & disagreeable, is a better marker of character than which side you're on or perceived to be on. Ideologues in particular are going to rewrite your story to their perception & prejudice.

What I'm seeing has grown to become common, for hot-button issue-oriented content to bludgeon the viewer with symbolism and plainly-stated messages, and where the messages don't exist or are ambiguous, they will be invented and clarified by blogging town-criers who perceive as such, regardless. It becomes yet another purity test.
Funny thing, how self-fulfilling prophecy works. Same goes for spite-marketing and related consumption. Life is interesting

It's more entertaining to see the contemptuous, slacktivist ideologue squander no opportunity to 'make some dramatic statement' and broadcast their virtue [or what they consider virtuous] as all the world is a stage, while making themselves look entirely petty and ridic. Off-topic yet relevant:

[behndy]

lol. that's.... pretty much how i feel. like, yes. there are some VERY important issues that are great that we actually discuss now. but...... there's a limit.

i know who i am, i know that i treat people the way they deserve to be treated based on the kind of person they are, not anything else.

[Invisible Man]

also.... not to like.... start anything? and mebbe being a white ass dood that has a decent income puts me on the wrong side of discussing Privelege, but..... i dunno. it feels like people saying BEN SWOLLO KEN REY-REY IS THE MODERN BOOGEYMAN BECAUSE HE'S THE EPITOME OF WHITE PRIVELEGE LOOKING TO DESTROY ALL NON WHITE blah blah might be..... reaching?

murp. mebbe that's just me.

It's a discussion already happening, and you aren't on the wrong side of anything for feeling some kinda way about being drawn in.
How you were born is not of your choosing, what you do is something you can influence. Cease marginalizing yourself.
How you actually treat others, especially others who are different & disagreeable, is a better marker of character than which side you're on or perceived to be on. Ideologues in particular are going to rewrite your story to their perception & prejudice.

What I'm seeing has grown to become common, for hot-button issue-oriented content to bludgeon the viewer with symbolism and plainly-stated messages, and where the messages don't exist or are ambiguous, they will be invented and clarified by blogging town-criers who perceive as such, regardless. It becomes yet another purity test.
Funny thing, how self-fulfilling prophecy works. Same goes for spite-marketing and related consumption. Life is interesting

It's more entertaining to see the contemptuous, slacktivist ideologue squander no opportunity to 'make some dramatic statement' and broadcast their virtue [or what they consider virtuous] as all the world is a stage, while making themselves look entirely petty and ridic. Off-topic yet relevant:

I don’t follow this. Are you saying SJWs got ahold of it and are shifting conversations away from where they should be happening?

[Snufkino]

What we really should be asking is where the purple light sabers at?

[MechaGodzilla]

I thought it was pretty fuckin sweet when TFA was a huge blockbuster hit with a black guy and a woman co-starring when hollywood (ESPECIALLY disney/marvel) have been too scared to do anything like it until now.

Then they carry on the narrative and it's all "oh noes the women and non-whites have stolen my space fantasy! my fragile boner!"??? Get outta here with that soft nonsense.

[Olin]

Haven't cared much about the casting of TFA at all, but what does infuriate me is the accents. Why they make some English actors put on American accents and others don't have to is beyond me.
It's space, the accents shouldn't matter at all among aliens but apparently John Boyega's natural accent is what? Not "heroic" enough? Seems weird to put all the effort in to do a nice multicultural, diverse cast and then do that but whatever, man.

[neonblack]

Boyega said he tried his normal accent but it didn't feel right to him. I think it was his choice, not the studios? Just like Driver was allowed to make his own Kylo voice.

I basically imagine him sitting in a room with a mic and a bunch of effects pedals mumbling vaguely threatening phrases

[MechaGodzilla]

I basically imagine him sitting in a room with a mic and a bunch of effects pedals mumbling vaguely threatening phrases

That's literally how Bill Hader did BB8's 'voice'

[neonblack]

Bill Hader and Adam Driver obviously lurk

[rustywire]

NSFW: show

also.... not to like.... start anything? and mebbe being a white ass dood that has a decent income puts me on the wrong side of discussing Privelege, but..... i dunno. it feels like people saying BEN SWOLLO KEN REY-REY IS THE MODERN BOOGEYMAN BECAUSE HE'S THE EPITOME OF WHITE PRIVELEGE LOOKING TO DESTROY ALL NON WHITE blah blah might be..... reaching?

murp. mebbe that's just me.

It's a discussion already happening, and you aren't on the wrong side of anything for feeling some kinda way about being drawn in.
How you were born is not of your choosing, what you do is something you can influence. Cease marginalizing yourself.
How you actually treat others, especially others who are different & disagreeable, is a better marker of character than which side you're on or perceived to be on. Ideologues in particular are going to rewrite your story to their perception & prejudice.

What I'm seeing has grown to become common, for hot-button issue-oriented content to bludgeon the viewer with symbolism and plainly-stated messages, and where the messages don't exist or are ambiguous, they will be invented and clarified by blogging town-criers who perceive as such, regardless. It becomes yet another purity test.
Funny thing, how self-fulfilling prophecy works. Same goes for spite-marketing and related consumption. Life is interesting

It's more entertaining to see the contemptuous, slacktivist ideologue squander no opportunity to 'make some dramatic statement' and broadcast their virtue [or what they consider virtuous] as all the world is a stage, while making themselves look entirely petty and ridic. Off-topic yet relevant:

I don’t follow this. Are you saying SJWs got ahold of it and are shifting conversations away from where they should be happening?

No. I prob wouldn't have typed all that to make such a reductive point. Generally I also try to focus on accurately identifying the descriptive over spitballing the normative.
I posted:

-A selection of sloppily organized observations about ideologues [any extreme] attempting to co-opt and subvert popular IP, to use for pandering propaganda, while gaslighting anyone who is critical of this behavior. The authoritative similarities between proggy sjw and the ultra-orthodox right outnumber the differences.

-As [you] prev mentioned SW was a popcorn movie franchise. THE popcorn movie franchise. Now it's as if people are suddenly incapable of tempering their ideology and activism for 120 freakin minutes, yet somehow still suspend disbelief long enough to overlook glaring physical anomalies that leave STEM pros vexed, so everything that needs to go right for "the good guys" can happen. Esp frustrating in Sci-Fi.

-Tangental bemusement at the hills people choose for their graveyard while possibly cutting off nose to spite their face.

-Kind of a clusterfuck reply but man imagine actually buying JHS pedals, let alone to spite complete strangers

[jrfox92]

It's space, the accents shouldn't matter at all among aliens but apparently John Boyega's natural accent is what? Not "heroic" enough? Seems weird to put all the effort in to do a nice multicultural, diverse cast and then do that but whatever, man.