Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:14 pm
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Chankgeez wrote:Yeah, it's like "We have to trust you, but we don't really trust you."
Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:44 pm
Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:48 pm
Chankgeez wrote:Difficult to be more damaging to Donald Trump than Donald Trump is to himself.
Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:51 pm
Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:52 pm
Chankgeez wrote::lol:
Some people actually believe all the dumb shit he says.
Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:46 pm
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Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:58 pm
calfzilla wrote:Does anything come from the Cohen testimony, or was it just a political Festivus?
Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:48 pm
friendship wrote:calfzilla wrote:Does anything come from the Cohen testimony, or was it just a political Festivus?
He did provide some hard evidence implicating the Trumps in campaign finance violations. Nothing so firm regarding Russian collusion. He also said there's evidence of other crimes but couldn't discuss them because they're still under investigation. The character testimony about Trump being a racist conman doesn't tell us anything we didn't already know about him. Republican cross-examination mostly wasted time discrediting Cohen as an unreliable witness, which doesn't matter because the evidence he presented corroborates the claims he made (the substantial ones anyway).
Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:24 pm
Sonaboy wrote:friendship wrote:calfzilla wrote:Does anything come from the Cohen testimony, or was it just a political Festivus?
He did provide some hard evidence implicating the Trumps in campaign finance violations. Nothing so firm regarding Russian collusion. He also said there's evidence of other crimes but couldn't discuss them because they're still under investigation. The character testimony about Trump being a racist conman doesn't tell us anything we didn't already know about him. Republican cross-examination mostly wasted time discrediting Cohen as an unreliable witness, which doesn't matter because the evidence he presented corroborates the claims he made (the substantial ones anyway).
It sure provided the gop committee members plenty of opportunity to embarrass themselves, I'll say that. The congressman who tried using the "this is my black friend so I can't be racist" ploy was a true highlight.
Cohen was used as leverage to turn another key witness who WILL provide a paper trail for obstruction in Mueller's probe for Russian dealings, Allen Weisselberg. He's the guy with all the money accounts and tax returns. Cohen and Allen worked on some fishy money moving before & during the campaign. It won't show collusion in a manner that will turn T's base on him, but Allen's upcoming testimony will make big trouble for the family and make a LOT of T's money disappear in owed back taxes and fines. Especially with regard to Mar-a-Lago being used as a slush fund and a fence. If the SDNY nails that - the Dem led Congress has enough to threaten (but perhaps not use) impeachment proceedings and basically turn this Pres even more ineffectual and probably into a lame duck.
Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:10 am
Bassist_Diver wrote:Sonaboy wrote:friendship wrote:calfzilla wrote:Does anything come from the Cohen testimony, or was it just a political Festivus?
He did provide some hard evidence implicating the Trumps in campaign finance violations. Nothing so firm regarding Russian collusion. He also said there's evidence of other crimes but couldn't discuss them because they're still under investigation. The character testimony about Trump being a racist conman doesn't tell us anything we didn't already know about him. Republican cross-examination mostly wasted time discrediting Cohen as an unreliable witness, which doesn't matter because the evidence he presented corroborates the claims he made (the substantial ones anyway).
It sure provided the gop committee members plenty of opportunity to embarrass themselves, I'll say that. The congressman who tried using the "this is my black friend so I can't be racist" ploy was a true highlight.
Cohen was used as leverage to turn another key witness who WILL provide a paper trail for obstruction in Mueller's probe for Russian dealings, Allen Weisselberg. He's the guy with all the money accounts and tax returns. Cohen and Allen worked on some fishy money moving before & during the campaign. It won't show collusion in a manner that will turn T's base on him, but Allen's upcoming testimony will make big trouble for the family and make a LOT of T's money disappear in owed back taxes and fines. Especially with regard to Mar-a-Lago being used as a slush fund and a fence. If the SDNY nails that - the Dem led Congress has enough to threaten (but perhaps not use) impeachment proceedings and basically turn this Pres even more ineffectual and probably into a lame duck.
The House is already working on that. Hell, even GOPers in both chambers are starting to turn on Donny-boy. Between the House doing their job this bullshit NK summit being a colossal waste of time/money with nothing to show for it (like literally everyone said it would be), and his base numbers shrinking, I'd imagine morale in the west wing is pretty low. If things really start heating up with Mueller I wouldn't be surprised if Donny resigned before the shit really hits his golden fan (not like it would do him much good - the NY courts will have enough to buttfuck him for a while).
But as of right now, I don't think we'll see impeachment hearings in the next couple years, as it's starting to get too close to the election. Unless there's something so obviously damning to indicate obstruction, collusion, and/or treason (such as video of Trump sucking Putin's cock or taking a cartoonishly large bag of cash) the GOP could easily call this as the dems being outrageous and extreme and really rally their constituents.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER THING - For the party of traditional values and hoo-rah American fuck yeah-ism, how in the name of fuck are they still on board with Trump's bullshit? I mean, it's not like they're only doing this to further their own self-interest and maintain power and wealth all to themselves, that's certainly not in line with their strong moral and Christian beliefs and they'd nnneeeeeevvvvveeeeeerrrrr do ttthhhhaaaaatttttt....
But srs, fuck those slimeballs for putting them and their party over the needs of their country and their constituents.