Definitely ultra-ambitious.
In principle, I'm all for it.
As you've said, it needs to be something that'll pass. Compromise is, as always, key. Not sure there's much compromise going on lately though.
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…...........................…psychic vampire. wrote:The important take away from this thread: Taoism and Ring Modulators go together?
…...........................…psychic vampire. wrote:The important take away from this thread: Taoism and Ring Modulators go together?
…...........................…psychic vampire. wrote:The important take away from this thread: Taoism and Ring Modulators go together?
Benn Roe wrote:They don't get to have an opinion. That's the only solution to the problem. Compromise is simply not an option here.
…...........................…psychic vampire. wrote:The important take away from this thread: Taoism and Ring Modulators go together?
Benn Roe wrote:If you're not an eco-warrior right now, you're doing it wrong. Look, I'm not at all a fan of shouting people down or taking militant stances about the things I believe. It doesn't do any good, just makes people double down. But these aren't things I believe, they're terrifying facts, and we don't really have the luxury of holding people's hands and treating their reckless opinions with respect on this one singular issue. Calling for compromise on this issue legitimizes a dangerous fringe belief at a time when we can't afford not to take action.
repoman wrote:Do you guys ever actually consider the points from scientists that have the position that AGW is overblown/not real/fabricated/not enough data to make a decision and consider there are political motivations behind people pushing it that would have skewed their position/made it a thing that should be treated with skepticism?
Do you ever legitimately critique positions from pro AGW people and listen to its critics with an open mind?
(There are plenty of legitimate critiques, you just never see them in mainstream news/press/media, they are in long, boring papers/studies and academic lectures on places like youtube).
Do you know the "father of CO2 driven climate change" (Roger Revelle) spent the last 10 years of his life writing about how his science had been hijacked by the UN and that people were rushing to conclusion, the press then labeled him as senile despite continuing to write papers until his death? These people then had the gall to create an award in his name to people doing the most combat climate change, first person being Al Gore. Al Gore said Roger Revelle was his greatest mentor, Roger Revelle said he had no recollection of knowing Al Gore, only that Gore had taken one of his classes at BU, which showed Gore was almost never in attendance and received a D in the class.
…...........................…psychic vampire. wrote:The important take away from this thread: Taoism and Ring Modulators go together?
repoman wrote:Do you guys ever actually consider the points from scientists that have the position that AGW is overblown/not real/fabricated/not enough data to make a decision and consider there are political motivations behind people pushing it that would have skewed their position/made it a thing that should be treated with skepticism?
Do you ever legitimately critique positions from pro AGW people and listen to its critics with an open mind?
(There are plenty of legitimate critiques, you just never see them in mainstream news/press/media, they are in long, boring papers/studies and academic lectures on places like youtube).
Do you know the "father of CO2 driven climate change" (Roger Revelle) spent the last 10 years of his life writing about how his science had been hijacked by the UN and that people were rushing to conclusion, the press then labeled him as senile despite continuing to write papers until his death? These people then had the gall to create an award in his name to people doing the most combat climate change, first person being Al Gore. Al Gore said Roger Revelle was his greatest mentor, Roger Revelle said he had no recollection of knowing Al Gore, only that Gore had taken one of his classes at BU, which showed Gore was almost never in attendance and received a D in the class.
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