FABRIKAT - Granular Synthesis / Sample Playback



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Re: FABRIKAT - Granular Synthesis / Sample Playback

Postby reverberry » Wed May 16, 2018 6:21 pm

Pladask wrote:
bacegchsbis wrote:These demos are sounding really nice. Is there a pre-production run coming up soon? I wanna get my hands on one of these


The pedal is a little delayed due to some last minute changes, but I hope to have the first 40 available late next month. :)*


I can't stop thinking about this damned pedal. It's unhealthy. Do you have any idea on how much longer we'll have to wait? :poke:
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Re: FABRIKAT - Granular Synthesis / Sample Playback

Postby Dandolin » Wed May 16, 2018 10:33 pm

Pladask wrote:I hope to have the first 40 available late next month. :)*


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Re: FABRIKAT - Granular Synthesis / Sample Playback

Postby daedelus23 » Fri May 18, 2018 7:16 pm

Someone on reddit said these were going on sale tomorrow at 5pm EST. Is that true?
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Re: FABRIKAT - Granular Synthesis / Sample Playback

Postby Dandolin » Fri May 18, 2018 11:40 pm

:eek: :erm: :snax:
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Re: FABRIKAT - Granular Synthesis / Sample Playback

Postby Pladask » Sat May 19, 2018 5:07 am

Hi
today is the day. I've delayed the launch over and over again, but this time it's definitely happening:
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Re: FABRIKAT - Granular Synthesis / Sample Playback

Postby whoismarykelly » Sat May 19, 2018 5:02 pm

Ordered! Can't wait to get this one in the rotation!
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Re: FABRIKAT - Granular Synthesis / Sample Playback

Postby cantremember » Sat May 19, 2018 5:09 pm

Congratulations on selling out in seconds! I'm stoked I was able to grab one!
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Re: FABRIKAT - Granular Synthesis / Sample Playback

Postby Paul_C » Sat May 19, 2018 6:23 pm

:cry: :cry: :cry:

I THOUGHT I'd checked that 11pm CET was the same as the time in the UK, but having seen that people had ordered and that the site showed it was out of stock, I looked again and discovered I was wrong - 11pm CET is currently 10pm in the UK.

So while I might well still have missed out, I missed the chance to at least try and order one.

Ho hum, I'll have to wait until the next run . . .
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Re: FABRIKAT - Granular Synthesis / Sample Playback

Postby Dandolin » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:30 pm

So, I find myself wanting to better understand granular shuffling and masking, but my Google-fu lacks the strength and dexterity to take me to the place where understanding waits, coiled like the cobra, to strike....

Can someone kindly direct me to some reading and/or listening material that might grind and buff away the scales of ignorance from mine ears and eyes?

Many thanks!
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Re: FABRIKAT - Granular Synthesis / Sample Playback

Postby UglyCasanova » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:29 pm

While I don't have a link, shuffling is randomizing the order of the grains within the buffer and masking is muting certain grains within the buffer. The granular synthesis buffer is like a deck of cards, where cards = grains/bits of recorded audio. Granular synthesis lets you manipulate the cards in the deck. When you shuffle it's like randomizing the order of the cards, and masking is like removing some of the cards. At least that's how I make sense of it. :p
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Re: FABRIKAT - Granular Synthesis / Sample Playback

Postby Dandolin » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:50 pm

Cool--thanks UC! :)* Do you know whether, in the algorithms on the Form/Fabrikat, there are other manipulations going on, such as to speed/time interval of playback? Is that subject to randomization too? Or with mask, is there manipulation of the pattern or density of the muted grains? Really appreciate your input. It's your demo of the shuffle algo pthat has fired me up to understand what's going on better (and get on the notification list for the next round of Fabrikats :D )
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Re: FABRIKAT - Granular Synthesis / Sample Playback

Postby UglyCasanova » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:21 am

I mean, there are several time stretch modes on both pedals, but if you're referring to the shuffler and masking alone, they don't time stretch.

Shuffler has one knob for the size of the buffer and one knob for the size of the grains (how many card there are in the deck). Those knobs interact quite a bit, so while the content of the buffer is continually rearranged (randomly), the sonic differences are tremendous. Small buffer plus small grains will give you a very artificial and cold sounding robotic effect while maxing out the buffer (1000ms) and having fewer grains will bring back low frequencies and give more of a "normal" delay sound with unpredictable repeats (sometimes normal, sometimes backwards and everything in between). Using the feedback knob (feeding the processed signal back through the shuffler) you can get some very interesting patterns happening.

In the masking mode the buffer is fixed to 250ms and the two knobs control mask rate (probability of masked grain) and the other knob controls the size of the grains within the buffer.

I hope that makes sense. I've started demoing it twice now, but there are just soooo many sounds in there that I only get 2-3 modes in before I find something new and forget what I'm supposed to be doing and just play. :facepalm:
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Re: FABRIKAT - Granular Synthesis / Sample Playback

Postby Pladask » Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:03 pm

Great explaining by UC :):):)

If you're interested in further reading on the subject "Microsound" by Curtis Roads is considered the bible of granular synthesis. Also I found this paper by Ross Bencina helpful in getting started with the FORM/FABRIKAT project: http://www.cs.au.dk/~dsound/DigitalAudi ... 310801.pdf

Happy hunting!

Also there's this is you're interested in granular reverse delay: http://ilovefuzz.com/viewtopic.php?f=279&t=60495
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Re: FABRIKAT - Granular Synthesis / Sample Playback

Postby Dandolin » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:28 pm

Wow--thank you both! That is super-helpful, and it does make sense to me. :wizard:


I'm really liking all the sounds I'm hearing from Fabrikat, but the shuffle and mask algos do stand out to me, and this helps me interpret what I'm hearing (wish I could get to the stage of just hearing/doing rather than getting stuck on the "but why"; ah well, baby steps).

I like the idea of the high interactivity of a small number of choice parameters--it's one of the things I really enjoy in the Outward, for instance....

Well, thanks again--off to read (and listen). :zen:

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