Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:28 am
drolo wrote:- How important is the tap tempo function, especially if that function could be replaced with a reverse loop function?
drolo wrote:- Would you give up the possibility to expression control the filter and pitch settings, have these controls as separate manual controls and make room for 2 new modes?
drolo wrote:- What are your favorite and least favorite modes?
drolo wrote:- Any other thoughts?
Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:57 am
Seance wrote:Reverse loop seems more dynamic than tap tempo as a function. [...] And of course the Stamme[n] already reflects
your thinking/design
Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:02 pm
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:48 pm
shikawkee wrote:
Oh no, I love the expression function. Big selling point to me. There's one or two modes I don't use. The filter for one but that's because I have other options and a Molecular Disruptor <g>.
Tap tempo for what I do isn't particularly relevant but I reckon lots of people need it. I don't think I've ever used FL or ST modes at all. Tape and swell are my favorites FWIW.
Frankly I don't think there's anything wrong with the Stamme(n), especially if you don't have a Molecular Disruptor or similar pedal but that shouldn't stop you messing around.
cantremember wrote:I use the filter, pitch and swell freeze with a expression pedal all the time! It's actually one of my favorite features of the pedal. I also really like the glitchdelay setting a lot. I'd be interested to hear what you have in mind for the 2 new modes but I honestly would have a hard time giving up the one I have now if the new version didn't have expression control.
UglyCasanova wrote:I don't use the exp control. I mainly use tap tempo glitch, FL and ST. Basically, the exact opposite of shikawkee.
Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:06 pm
UglyCasanova wrote:Seance wrote:Reverse loop seems more dynamic than tap tempo as a function. [...] And of course the Stamme[n] already reflects
your thinking/design
Weeeeell... Here I go tooting my own horn, but it was originally me who pleaded to David to make the Stammen and we worked together on how it would look/function (one knob for the effect, separate wet/dry, symbols instead of text, the name etc) , and the basis for that pedal from me was the tap tempo functionality, because no other sampler/glitch pedal had that. Basically a MASF Raptio on steroids with more pragmatic live functionality.
drolo wrote:I almost regret asking these questions. I now still have the same doubts but they are shared and defended by many more people
But thanks for your input guys, it's really helpful!
Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:26 pm
Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:44 pm
Seance wrote:UglyCasanova wrote:Seance wrote:Reverse loop seems more dynamic than tap tempo as a function. [...] And of course the Stamme[n] already reflects
your thinking/design
Weeeeell... Here I go tooting my own horn, but it was originally me who pleaded to David to make the Stammen and we worked together on how it would look/function (one knob for the effect, separate wet/dry, symbols instead of text, the name etc) , and the basis for that pedal from me was the tap tempo functionality, because no other sampler/glitch pedal had that. Basically a MASF Raptio on steroids with more pragmatic live functionality.
Forgive me for not mentioning your input/thinking/design.
No offense intended.drolo wrote:I almost regret asking these questions. I now still have the same doubts but they are shared and defended by many more people
But thanks for your input guys, it's really helpful!
I do think that the input you are going to receive is going to be in all directions based on what people
are drawn to with the Stamme[n] and how they use it. There probably is not going to be a universally accepted
consensus on how/what to expand and what/how to curtail or edit functionality. If reactions go in all directions,
that means people are finding all sorts of different and equally powerful ways to use your pedal.
I like the mix of options on the Stamme[n], including expression pedal, tap temp, large knob. Each has its appeal
and is highly useful for certain instances or approaches. Since you're making it and updating it, I feel pretty confident
that people who are into the pedal will be into the adaptations and updates. Follow your gut.
Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:50 pm
adamajah wrote:I think the Stamme[n] was/is sort of an instant classic. Don't mess with it! :P
Dumb question: Why not make a different pedal altogether, even if it's based on the Stamme[n] platform. So[n] of Stamme[n].
The modes I use most are:
1 Filter Hold (Yes with exp pedal!)
2 Random Tempo
3 Glitcholay
4 Swell Hold (Yes with exp pedal!)
I've never used the tap tempo function, though I can see its usefulness/uniqueness.
Whatever you do I know it'll be rad.
Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:55 pm
Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:00 am
drolo wrote: I have been debating in my head over various options for weeks/months and could not really make up my mind. Even though there is no consensus at all, as was to be expected, things are starting to get a bit clearer in my head
Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:19 am
UglyCasanova wrote:I already have a V2, so I have a tap tempo and the other modes I use, so I am actually interested in a new take on the effect. I just wanted to say what I used the most. How many Stammens have you made so far?
Seance wrote:
If you are faced with an enigma where you can't quite decide how best to approach
a few equally plausible and desirable outcomes, sometimes it is helpful to write out
those options on pieces of paper and then blindly pull a single piece of paper from a hat.
But don't just simply do what the paper indicates. Pay attention to your immediate
reaction to what the paper indicates. It isn't about simply giving over agency to fate,
because if you have a strong and visceral reaction upon arriving at that one option,
then the act of giving up your agency and allowing "fate" to indicate the way forward
sometimes releases a subconscious response that was there all along but perhaps was
too quiet in the flow of all your myriad other thoughts and weighed options and
debated potentials to be properly heard.
I like the idea of the LED indicator and momentary/latching function for both switches.
Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:39 pm
Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:21 pm
Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:43 pm
Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:16 pm
whoismarykelly wrote:I mentioned this on IG but tap tempo is one of the things that makes Stammen unique in the marketplace. There is no other pedal available now that offers tap tempo in this type of effect. It's bizarre to me but here we are. That said, when I had a V1 Stammen I didn't think the tap tempo registered consistently and there wasn't an indicator of how fast it was going. I didn't know it was registering on the release so that may be part of the issue. IMO nothing should ever happen on the release with a pedal. My understanding is the FV1 is rather crappy when it comes to making tap tempo work so if you could get another micro in there to handle that function and the matching tempo LED that would be absolutely huge.
Other than that my favorite effect on the Stammen is the broken cable program. Another Stammen exclusive feature and really cool for adding character to layers of a loop.
Fantasyland idea - look at how the S3N Super Flutter worked where one switch triggered the effect and the other switch would either slow down or speed up the effect depending on knob setting. If the effect was already triggering an up/down action, then the second switch reverses that action. Its incredibly dynamic and inspiring and nothing else does that.
UglyCasanova wrote:Demo by my internet bud, Devon! Peeeeeeeeeeeep!