John Matrix wrote:coldbrightsunlight wrote:^^^^
I see doom as having a specific sort of melodic sensibility. Think Sabbath etc. Ultimately blues / old school metal derived to a greater or lesser degree.
Sludge is just... sludgy. Not everything that's tuned low and slow is "doom"
I know this is getting a bit into the realm of subgenres are out of control
Yeah I agree. It gets tricky because Black Sabbath is so old and has influenced so many different kinds of music. The Melvins for example are clearly influenced by Sabbath but are in no way a doom band. For me there are two main branches of what I'd consider doom metal. The stoner doom branch from Sabbath to Sleep, Electric Wizard etc...and the doom METAL branch from Candlemass onward (funeral and death doom are pretty far removed from Sabbath but could trace their lineage back this way imo). But really...what the fuck do I know. I don't really care what people call anything this is just how I think about it.
even trying to put things into genres like sludge/doom/metal/stoner is way too difficult when bands sound more like one or the other on the same album from one song to the next.
this is pretty doomy to me, but it isn't conan/sleep/a bong band/etc, sure.
