Which Fuzz Best For Boosting?



Re: Which Fuzz Best For Boosting?

Postby pelliott » Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:24 pm

Saturn999 wrote:I'm looking for something that has a moderate level of gain and a rather limited tone sweep. By that I mean I'm looking for something without either a super-flubby lowend or an equally undesirable icepick-in-the-ear high.


I know you said you'll look elsewhere but this is the Pharaoh to a T. The tone controls don't do a WHOLE lot except dial it in to your setup, and it's designed to be a mid-gain fuzz to push a cooking amp. If you're patient an older one will pop up around $100.
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Re: Which Fuzz Best For Boosting?

Postby doominchains » Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:16 pm

@Saturn999 - which one?
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Re: Which Fuzz Best For Boosting?

Postby Saturn999 » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:17 pm

pelliott wrote:
Saturn999 wrote:I'm looking for something that has a moderate level of gain and a rather limited tone sweep. By that I mean I'm looking for something without either a super-flubby lowend or an equally undesirable icepick-in-the-ear high.


I know you said you'll look elsewhere but this is the Pharaoh to a T. The tone controls don't do a WHOLE lot except dial it in to your setup, and it's designed to be a mid-gain fuzz to push a cooking amp. If you're patient an older one will pop up around $100.


Does sound very much like what I'm looking for atm. Will keep an eye open for a used copy then. Thanks for the heads up.
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Re: Which Fuzz Best For Boosting?

Postby nablock » Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:40 am

Don't have a way to side by side, but I'm pretty sure the Behringer SF-300 I picked up for $25 from Sweetwater is a direct copy of the Boss FZ-2. Highs off, gain and lows cranked on Fuzz 2 mode is a pretty accurate early Electric Wizard tone.

Staying on topic, I have been contemplating a Pharaoh to stack with my Abominable Don't Shred on Me Deluxe, which is a modded Rat. Anyone have experience with how they interact? The DSOM totally overpowered a Keeley modded TS9 I am borrowing. Zero change except for the influence of the tone knob regardless of if I put it before or after the DSOM. I suppose there is no chance I hate the Pharaoh even if it doesn't play nice with the DSOM.
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Re: Which Fuzz Best For Boosting?

Postby kbit » Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:07 am

Yeah dude, the Berhinger FZ-2 clone is rad and cheap. The boost mode still has the eq section active, too, so you have some flexibility.
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Re: Which Fuzz Best For Boosting?

Postby Saturn999 » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:57 am

nablock wrote:Don't have a way to side by side, but I'm pretty sure the Behringer SF-300 I picked up for $25 from Sweetwater is a direct copy of the Boss FZ-2. Highs off, gain and lows cranked on Fuzz 2 mode is a pretty accurate early Electric Wizard tone.

Staying on topic, I have been contemplating a Pharaoh to stack with my Abominable Don't Shred on Me Deluxe, which is a modded Rat. Anyone have experience with how they interact? The DSOM totally overpowered a Keeley modded TS9 I am borrowing. Zero change except for the influence of the tone knob regardless of if I put it before or after the DSOM. I suppose there is no chance I hate the Pharaoh even if it doesn't play nice with the DSOM.


My personal experience with trying to stack a Rat with various other Boss, Digitech, and Ibanez pedals has taught me that the Rat does not play well with others.
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Re: Which Fuzz Best For Boosting?

Postby odontophobia » Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:48 am

Saturn999 wrote:
nablock wrote:Don't have a way to side by side, but I'm pretty sure the Behringer SF-300 I picked up for $25 from Sweetwater is a direct copy of the Boss FZ-2. Highs off, gain and lows cranked on Fuzz 2 mode is a pretty accurate early Electric Wizard tone.

Staying on topic, I have been contemplating a Pharaoh to stack with my Abominable Don't Shred on Me Deluxe, which is a modded Rat. Anyone have experience with how they interact? The DSOM totally overpowered a Keeley modded TS9 I am borrowing. Zero change except for the influence of the tone knob regardless of if I put it before or after the DSOM. I suppose there is no chance I hate the Pharaoh even if it doesn't play nice with the DSOM.


My personal experience with trying to stack a Rat with various other Boss, Digitech, and Ibanez pedals has taught me that the Rat does not play well with others.


I have never been happy with the tone I got from Pharaoh into Rat or vice versa but.... Both pedals can be tweaked quite a bit and having a tone on each you like and then just smashing them together probably won't work for you, which is basically exactly what I attempted to do. I would recommend the Pharaoh for almost any application but it may be something that you have to spend some time to get to sound the way you want it to.
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Re: Which Fuzz Best For Boosting?

Postby braaandooon » Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:45 am

I've had the same ole' Rat 2 since '96. I've stacked it with just about everything possible and have had my best results with setting it up as a overdrive and running it into a NYC type muff set to higher gain. Pretty much just bumps the mids on the muff for some cut.

Rat>Ram's Head = straight up magic. You can also find a Ram's Head Muff clone on the cheap by looking out for an Ibanez 60's Fuzz that was part of the soundtank series.

Haven't even got to try out a Pharaoh yet, which saddens me.
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Re: Which Fuzz Best For Boosting?

Postby nablock » Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:41 am

braaandooon wrote:I've had the same ole' Rat 2 since '96. I've stacked it with just about everything possible and have had my best results with setting it up as a overdrive and running it into a NYC type muff set to higher gain. Pretty much just bumps the mids on the muff for some cut.

Rat>Ram's Head = straight up magic. You can also find a Ram's Head Muff clone on the cheap by looking out for an Ibanez 60's Fuzz that was part of the soundtank series.

Haven't even got to try out a Pharaoh yet, which saddens me.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I would try and do. Dial the gain back on the DSOM. The pedal sounds its best with the level knob cranked, so that's how I'll leave it.
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Re: Which Fuzz Best For Boosting?

Postby D.o.S. » Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:40 am

Rat + Big Muff is a timeless combination for a reason.
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Re: Which Fuzz Best For Boosting?

Postby doominchains » Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:45 pm

I love Rats and Muffs, I've never stacked them though. I gotta try it now.
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Re: Which Fuzz Best For Boosting?

Postby braaandooon » Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:08 pm

Really is a great pairing, pretty much a staple for those Sunn O))) tonez, along with a nice loud stack.
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Re: Which Fuzz Best For Boosting?

Postby The Mad Titan » Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:05 pm

Saturn999 wrote:
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Saturn999 wrote:Meh. Not too thrilled about BAT's prices, tbh.


Again, that's why I mentioned used. You can usually pick up a BAT Pharaoh for a great deal. Hell, you can get them on Guitar Center's used website for $100 here and there. I think you're going to struggle to find something good, well made, and versatile at that price point.


I've listened to a lot of BAT vids, they sound great for what they are, but, like treble boosters, are way too over-priced, imo. Am going to keep looking though.



You can pick up a used OC44 Keeley Java all day long for under $100. That's three different Range Master clones in one box. Fuckin' shit's a steal, and man the tones by itself or stacked with amp drive, other boosts, OD's, and fuzz. :love:

My BAT LSTR does work very well for boosting even though it's a Muff based fuzz. It's the Scoop control that does it. I love it with the Scoop between 3/4 - max, and the tone usually around noon to 3/4 with the Fuzz on 0 and the level maxed.

My Analogman HGWD Sun Face sounds awesome into the vintage high gain channel of my Tremoverb with the gain low (like 10:30-11:00) and the volume set loud to loud as fuck.
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