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Re: Count To Five

Postby Glitches&switches » Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:43 pm

sitarman wrote:I am thinking about selling my Count to 5. Not sure yet. But what is legit price to ask? And what is good place/forum to place an add besides reverb (I have no experience with reverb) ? A specific place where they are interested in this pedal?


Seriously this is one of the most unique pedals ever made. I get it I sold it, regretted it and bought one again! Do you have the latest firmware? There's some cool new options. I discover new stuff with this almost everytime I play it! Did you know you can find a 1:1 delay ratio with quatization switch and do frippertronic sound on sound delays? With the most recent update you can use the left footswitch to hold what's in the buffer and repeat that endlessly, these are both options via the first mode. Seriously this pedal has so many cool options, I'm trying to talk you into exploring it more before selling it, there's so much in that box I never know if it can all be discovered. Of all the pedals I have ever owned or played there is no other pedal that offers as mich creative endless discovery as this thing does IMO.
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Re: Count To Five

Postby MrNovember » Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:46 pm

Glitches&switches wrote:
sitarman wrote:I am thinking about selling my Count to 5. Not sure yet. But what is legit price to ask? And what is good place/forum to place an add besides reverb (I have no experience with reverb) ? A specific place where they are interested in this pedal?


Seriously this is one of the most unique pedals ever made. I get it I sold it, regretted it and bought one again! Do you have the latest firmware? There's some cool new options. I discover new stuff with this almost everytime I play it! Did you know you can find a 1:1 delay ratio with quatization switch and do frippertronic sound on sound delays? With the most recent update you can use the left footswitch to hold what's in the buffer and repeat that endlessly, these are both options via the first mode. Seriously this pedal has so many cool options, I'm trying to talk you into exploring it more before selling it, there's so much in that box I never know if it can all be discovered. Of all the pedals I have ever owned or played there is no other pedal that offers as mich creative endless discovery as this thing does IMO.

Wow, I need to get a new version of the CT5. I'm still rocking an OG two switch version, but the 1:1 delay ratio frippertronic thing sounds awesome!
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Re: Count To Five

Postby prscrptn » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:23 pm

Ive got quite a few looping pedals (including the 857 zellersasn), and nothing else really matches the CT5.

Totally missed the holiday sale last month and have been kicking myself ever since...

Scott struck gold with this one; so musical and intuitive :thumb:
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Re: Count To Five

Postby cosmicevan » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:56 pm

Some Count to 5 for all the lovers out there

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*** all sounds made live w Count to 5 > looper w some buzz from a Broughton Rumblefish
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Re: Count To Five

Postby sitarman » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:29 am

Glitches&switches wrote:
sitarman wrote:I am thinking about selling my Count to 5. Not sure yet. But what is legit price to ask? And what is good place/forum to place an add besides reverb (I have no experience with reverb) ? A specific place where they are interested in this pedal?


Seriously this is one of the most unique pedals ever made. I get it I sold it, regretted it and bought one again! Do you have the latest firmware? There's some cool new options. I discover new stuff with this almost everytime I play it! Did you know you can find a 1:1 delay ratio with quatization switch and do frippertronic sound on sound delays? With the most recent update you can use the left footswitch to hold what's in the buffer and repeat that endlessly, these are both options via the first mode. Seriously this pedal has so many cool options, I'm trying to talk you into exploring it more before selling it, there's so much in that box I never know if it can all be discovered. Of all the pedals I have ever owned or played there is no other pedal that offers as mich creative endless discovery as this thing does IMO.


Sold it a few weeks ago. Didn't miss it yet. For me it was a bit too complicated with all the sub functions under the knobs and switches. Each time I didn't play it for a few weeks I had to relearn the pedal. I still have my Hexe Revolver.
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Re: Count To Five

Postby cosmicevan » Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:19 pm

sitarman wrote:
Glitches&switches wrote:
sitarman wrote:I am thinking about selling my Count to 5. Not sure yet. But what is legit price to ask? And what is good place/forum to place an add besides reverb (I have no experience with reverb) ? A specific place where they are interested in this pedal?


Seriously this is one of the most unique pedals ever made. I get it I sold it, regretted it and bought one again! Do you have the latest firmware? There's some cool new options. I discover new stuff with this almost everytime I play it! Did you know you can find a 1:1 delay ratio with quatization switch and do frippertronic sound on sound delays? With the most recent update you can use the left footswitch to hold what's in the buffer and repeat that endlessly, these are both options via the first mode. Seriously this pedal has so many cool options, I'm trying to talk you into exploring it more before selling it, there's so much in that box I never know if it can all be discovered. Of all the pedals I have ever owned or played there is no other pedal that offers as mich creative endless discovery as this thing does IMO.


Sold it a few weeks ago. Didn't miss it yet. For me it was a bit too complicated with all the sub functions under the knobs and switches. Each time I didn't play it for a few weeks I had to relearn the pedal. I still have my Hexe Revolver.


It's not really that hard to get your head around, but yeah, it's not a twist some knobs and you got it kind of thing. It takes some time and experimentation...but once you "get it" there isn't much you can't do. Transcendence modes are particularly awesome. Most of the newer and more powerful pedals require you to go deep with them to really get the most out of it. Count to 5 is well worth the time investment.
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Re: Count To Five

Postby sitarman » Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:36 pm

cosmicevan wrote:
sitarman wrote:
Glitches&switches wrote:
sitarman wrote:I am thinking about selling my Count to 5. Not sure yet. But what is legit price to ask? And what is good place/forum to place an add besides reverb (I have no experience with reverb) ? A specific place where they are interested in this pedal?


Seriously this is one of the most unique pedals ever made. I get it I sold it, regretted it and bought one again! Do you have the latest firmware? There's some cool new options. I discover new stuff with this almost everytime I play it! Did you know you can find a 1:1 delay ratio with quatization switch and do frippertronic sound on sound delays? With the most recent update you can use the left footswitch to hold what's in the buffer and repeat that endlessly, these are both options via the first mode. Seriously this pedal has so many cool options, I'm trying to talk you into exploring it more before selling it, there's so much in that box I never know if it can all be discovered. Of all the pedals I have ever owned or played there is no other pedal that offers as mich creative endless discovery as this thing does IMO.


Sold it a few weeks ago. Didn't miss it yet. For me it was a bit too complicated with all the sub functions under the knobs and switches. Each time I didn't play it for a few weeks I had to relearn the pedal. I still have my Hexe Revolver.


It's not really that hard to get your head around, but yeah, it's not a twist some knobs and you got it kind of thing. It takes some time and experimentation...but once you "get it" there isn't much you can't do. Transcendence modes are particularly awesome. Most of the newer and more powerful pedals require you to go deep with them to really get the most out of it. Count to 5 is well worth the time investment.


It’s not so much the basic functions of the pedal that are complex. It’s more the hidden functions and knob combinations and presses that they later added that made it more complex. I spend of lot of time with it in the first few months and got some really nice things out of it. But every time I stopped using it for some weeks I had to wrap my head around it again and I had forgotten all the new knob combinations and presses. I don’t mean the basic knobs. I mean that one knob could have different functions when you hold a certain switch and so on. You really have to remember those knob combinations if you want to get the most out of it. Maybe they should make a version 2 of the CT5 with more knobs and every function under one knob. That would make it more clear and easy.
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Re: Count To Five

Postby Dowi » Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:09 am

sitarman wrote:
cosmicevan wrote:
sitarman wrote:
Glitches&switches wrote:
sitarman wrote:I am thinking about selling my Count to 5. Not sure yet. But what is legit price to ask? And what is good place/forum to place an add besides reverb (I have no experience with reverb) ? A specific place where they are interested in this pedal?


Seriously this is one of the most unique pedals ever made. I get it I sold it, regretted it and bought one again! Do you have the latest firmware? There's some cool new options. I discover new stuff with this almost everytime I play it! Did you know you can find a 1:1 delay ratio with quatization switch and do frippertronic sound on sound delays? With the most recent update you can use the left footswitch to hold what's in the buffer and repeat that endlessly, these are both options via the first mode. Seriously this pedal has so many cool options, I'm trying to talk you into exploring it more before selling it, there's so much in that box I never know if it can all be discovered. Of all the pedals I have ever owned or played there is no other pedal that offers as mich creative endless discovery as this thing does IMO.


Sold it a few weeks ago. Didn't miss it yet. For me it was a bit too complicated with all the sub functions under the knobs and switches. Each time I didn't play it for a few weeks I had to relearn the pedal. I still have my Hexe Revolver.


It's not really that hard to get your head around, but yeah, it's not a twist some knobs and you got it kind of thing. It takes some time and experimentation...but once you "get it" there isn't much you can't do. Transcendence modes are particularly awesome. Most of the newer and more powerful pedals require you to go deep with them to really get the most out of it. Count to 5 is well worth the time investment.


It’s not so much the basic functions of the pedal that are complex. It’s more the hidden functions and knob combinations and presses that they later added that made it more complex. I spend of lot of time with it in the first few months and got some really nice things out of it. But every time I stopped using it for some weeks I had to wrap my head around it again and I had forgotten all the new knob combinations and presses. I don’t mean the basic knobs. I mean that one knob could have different functions when you hold a certain switch and so on. You really have to remember those knob combinations if you want to get the most out of it. Maybe they should make a version 2 of the CT5 with more knobs and every function under one knob. That would make it more clear and easy.


I remember feeling the same way when i first got it a few years back, then i spent the first months with the printed manual laying around the pedal and noting down stuff and combinations. After a few months it was all pretty intuitive and easy, didn't need the manual anymore. I just felt it was worth the patience because of the interesting things i could do with it. The secondary knob functions are not that many compared to other (newer) pedals, but i get that they can be annoying.
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Re: Count To Five

Postby MrNovember » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:02 am

I didn't even know there were secondary knob functions. I've been happy just exploring the basic pedal operations and I've had one of these since the first batch
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Re: Count To Five

Postby sitarman » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:16 am

Dowi wrote:
sitarman wrote:I remember feeling the same way when i first got it a few years back, then i spent the first months with the printed manual laying around the pedal and noting down stuff and combinations. After a few months it was all pretty intuitive and easy, didn't need the manual anymore. I just felt it was worth the patience because of the interesting things i could do with it. The secondary knob functions are not that many compared to other (newer) pedals, but i get that they can be annoying.


Yes that is what I mean. I had to get the manual again each time I didn't use it for some time. If you use it on a daily or weekly bases that's no issue anymore I guess. I liked the extra functions but to me it was just too much to remember what I had to do exactly and which switch and knob to press to use them. That's why I see potential in a second incarnation of the CT5 with each function on one knob. Still love the CT5 and will maybe buy it again if there will be a mk2.
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Re: Count To Five

Postby cosmicevan » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:20 pm

Dowi wrote:
sitarman wrote:
cosmicevan wrote:
sitarman wrote:
Glitches&switches wrote:
sitarman wrote:I am thinking about selling my Count to 5. Not sure yet. But what is legit price to ask? And what is good place/forum to place an add besides reverb (I have no experience with reverb) ? A specific place where they are interested in this pedal?


Seriously this is one of the most unique pedals ever made. I get it I sold it, regretted it and bought one again! Do you have the latest firmware? There's some cool new options. I discover new stuff with this almost everytime I play it! Did you know you can find a 1:1 delay ratio with quatization switch and do frippertronic sound on sound delays? With the most recent update you can use the left footswitch to hold what's in the buffer and repeat that endlessly, these are both options via the first mode. Seriously this pedal has so many cool options, I'm trying to talk you into exploring it more before selling it, there's so much in that box I never know if it can all be discovered. Of all the pedals I have ever owned or played there is no other pedal that offers as mich creative endless discovery as this thing does IMO.


Sold it a few weeks ago. Didn't miss it yet. For me it was a bit too complicated with all the sub functions under the knobs and switches. Each time I didn't play it for a few weeks I had to relearn the pedal. I still have my Hexe Revolver.


It's not really that hard to get your head around, but yeah, it's not a twist some knobs and you got it kind of thing. It takes some time and experimentation...but once you "get it" there isn't much you can't do. Transcendence modes are particularly awesome. Most of the newer and more powerful pedals require you to go deep with them to really get the most out of it. Count to 5 is well worth the time investment.


It’s not so much the basic functions of the pedal that are complex. It’s more the hidden functions and knob combinations and presses that they later added that made it more complex. I spend of lot of time with it in the first few months and got some really nice things out of it. But every time I stopped using it for some weeks I had to wrap my head around it again and I had forgotten all the new knob combinations and presses. I don’t mean the basic knobs. I mean that one knob could have different functions when you hold a certain switch and so on. You really have to remember those knob combinations if you want to get the most out of it. Maybe they should make a version 2 of the CT5 with more knobs and every function under one knob. That would make it more clear and easy.


I remember feeling the same way when i first got it a few years back, then i spent the first months with the printed manual laying around the pedal and noting down stuff and combinations. After a few months it was all pretty intuitive and easy, didn't need the manual anymore. I just felt it was worth the patience because of the interesting things i could do with it. The secondary knob functions are not that many compared to other (newer) pedals, but i get that they can be annoying.


Yeah, kinda like any gadget. Intimidating at first, but over time you don't need the manual.

I think people give up too easily in general. This is no more complex than your cell phone...I'm sure there are plenty of hidden functions on your phone you don't know about that would make your life better, but most people don't want to invest in learning full capabilities. They'd rather push buttons and figure it out...Count to 5 is worth 5 times it's price if you dig in and learn that in mode 3 the "E" switch controls if you have 1, 2, or 3 copies of your sample and that by holding the Q switch down you can control the volume of each iteration of the sample...similarly if you realize that toggling the Q switch up once gives you the ideal quantization of 5ths and octaves for mode 1. Learning little things like that really opens the pedal up in big ways.

856 for Zellersasn was a bigger investment, and way more rewarding being able to be deliberate with these boxes is awesome.
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Re: Count To Five

Postby hotfat » Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:06 am

I had a hard time remembering those "secondary" functions too and found some abbreviated notes helped.
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Re: Count To Five

Postby Dowi » Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:17 am

hotfat wrote:I had a hard time remembering those "secondary" functions too and found some abbreviated notes helped.
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besides the Q DOWN in M3 to mix the three loops and in M1 to add modulation i don't use the others very much, but that's certainly a smart move.
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Re: Count To Five

Postby sitarman » Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:45 am

hotfat wrote:I had a hard time remembering those "secondary" functions too and found some abbreviated notes helped.
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Haha...great solution!

What do you guys and girls think about a Count to Five mk2? Would you be interested?
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Re: Count To Five

Postby oldangelmidnight » Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:29 am

Seems unnecessary to me.
I'd be happy to see any new thing Scott comes up with, though.
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