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hotfat wrote:I still don't understand the following from the manual:
"When FREE/R=B/AREC is in FREE mode, the (TMPO/REP) knob controls the tempo so that in fully counter-clockwise position, there are 40 loops per minute (40 playings of N1) and in fully clockwise position, there are 240 loops per minute."
How can there be FORTY 20 second long loops played back in one minute, let alone TWO HUNDRED FORTY?
Any clarification?
zoooombiex wrote:hotfat wrote:I still don't understand the following from the manual:
"When FREE/R=B/AREC is in FREE mode, the (TMPO/REP) knob controls the tempo so that in fully counter-clockwise position, there are 40 loops per minute (40 playings of N1) and in fully clockwise position, there are 240 loops per minute."
How can there be FORTY 20 second long loops played back in one minute, let alone TWO HUNDRED FORTY?
Any clarification?
The loops overlap each other. So if it's 40 x 20 second loops, then every 1.5 seconds a new instance of the loop will start playing, and each instance plays out the full length of the loop (assuming length is set to max). If it's 240 x 20 second loops, then every .25 seconds a new instance of the loop will start playing. In either case, you end up with multiple instances of the loop playing over top of each other with staggered start times according to the tempo setting.
Note that the use of the word "tempo" is sort of misleading. Usually that refers to the speed at which the content of the loop itself is played back. But here "tempo" is more like the tempo of an LFO that controls how often the loop gets triggered for playback.
hotfat wrote:Who or what is "N.B."? (manual section for FREE/QUANT/SKIP switch)
zoooombiex wrote:I know with the tourbox version I concluded that it was working on repeats (and thus only on N2 & N3 and not N1). But it doesn't seem to be working the same way on the one I just bought. It's totally possible I'm missing something but I did a little video to try to demonstrate/troubleshoot. As shown, the stride just seems to be adjusting the start point (like the ABS setting) but then when the loop repeats the sample start point doesn't change.
multi_s wrote:zoooombiex wrote:I know with the tourbox version I concluded that it was working on repeats (and thus only on N2 & N3 and not N1). But it doesn't seem to be working the same way on the one I just bought. It's totally possible I'm missing something but I did a little video to try to demonstrate/troubleshoot. As shown, the stride just seems to be adjusting the start point (like the ABS setting) but then when the loop repeats the sample start point doesn't change.
Thanks for this video, i appreciate that you took the time to make it and it makes it much easier to explain what is going on.
You need to turn up the repeats to have it stride more.
The basic concept is everytime the BEAT light flashed you will here the same sequence of transformations on the OG recording.
So if there is say 1 repeat, as it seems in your video, you get the original sounding, then 1 repeat with the start offset (strided?)
The next LOOP will be the same. The stride only affects repeats within the LOOP, it is striding from teh original "sounding" of the note.
So if you want to hear a lot of striding, turn up the repeats. each repeat it will move an additional amount, as determined by the stride knob.
Again as in the above post if you prefer some other behavior we can incorporate it into an update, we are already set to release one late January for 856 so any input willbe considered.
And also sorry for the slow reply we are moving at the moment but by next week we should be back to normal.
RE it worked in the Tourbox differently... Unfortunately since JWARs unit went MIA we can never know for sure, but it is the same binary on both runs i dont think the behavior would have been different.
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