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Re: 856 for ZELLERSASN

Postby MrNovember » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:19 pm

I'm kind of in the same boat. It's an incredibly cool effect, but I just don't know what to use it for in my current setup. I need to spend some more time exploring it still
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Re: 856 for ZELLERSASN

Postby multi_s » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:31 pm

zoooombiex wrote:Thanks Scott - that makes sense. I tried it out last night and confirmed that it was working as you described. I suspect that I just stumbled into that setup with the tourbox unit and didn't realize it when I started playing around with this one.


no problem.

hotfat wrote:Scott,

"It does not mean that each time the beat light flashes (signalling the beginning of a loop) the pitch will alternate. It means the repeats within the loop alternate."

I understood that from the start. That was clear.

I was mostly confused by the way P1, P2 and P3 are piled up by default, making it kind of difficult to understand what's going on with the TMPO/REP knob. Finding out how to spread out the P1, P2 and P3 "voices" with the DELTA knob helped with that.

It seems that there are a finite number of "repeats" that can be selected. I hear a maximum of 16 total iterations of the P1, P2 and P3 "voices", 6 of P1 and 5 each of P2 and P3. Is this correct? If so, a tweek of the resolution/scaling of the TMPO/REP knob might be useful as it's difficult to make selections on the minimum side and the selections are farther apart on the maximum side. I hope that's clear.

Just curious, what's "the Tourbox"?

Thanks for taking the time to respond, Scott!


re tourbox: a board member JWAR loaned his out to a series of people (on "tour") but unfortunately it went missing half way though. But anyway i was responding to zoom to say they should be the same firmware, the one in that tour, and the one that he has purchased.

re repeats: iirc it should linearly increase. so for every x degrees one repeat should be added. Is that what you mean though? like for whatever reason you experience rapid change when the dial is more counter clockwise, and less change when the dial is more clockwise?

there are a finite number available yes, it is 16 as you said i believe.
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Re: 856 for ZELLERSASN

Postby hotfat » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:04 pm

Scott,

" … it should linearly increase. so for every x degrees one repeat should be added."

It doesn't seem to be like that. I imagine the potentiometer's taper probably varies from unit to unit but in the case of my box, it seems to be MUCH "tighter" with VERY little movement required to add the 2nd and 3rd playback or "voice" at the start, or minimum, and then MUCH "looser", or more movement required to add additional voices as you approach the end or maximum. It's almost impossible to set the knob to select just P1 and P2, then bump it to just add P3. It takes a LOT of fiddling on that end of the knob's rotation. Again, I hope that's clear.

So, it sounds like there should be 16 equally spaced, discrete steps when the TMPO/REP knob is used for this purpose. Reasonable?

One thing that I think would be a valuable addition to the feature set would be REVERSE PLAYBACK, whether it's on a NOTE SET level or a Px (P1, P2 and P3) level. I don't have any idea whether the architecture of the software would accommodate the Px level but it would seem to be kind of complicated from the user interface side.

Thanks again, Scott.
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Re: 856 for ZELLERSASN

Postby hotfat » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:59 pm

Scott,

Would it be possible to implement the 856 PITCH parameter the same way it's done on the CT5 in "Quantize to semitones", going from forward to reverse, and on the Px level?? Only you would know! I think that would be a fantastic addition. I don't know how this would affect the POS parameter, ENV, FADE, etc.

Thanks for considering ...
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Re: 856 for ZELLERSASN

Postby wedgehed » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:28 pm

Any one else using Ctrlr software with the 856?

Here's a screenshot of the controller I made.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9v0yqjpojylun ... 0.png?dl=0

You can download the software from ctrlr.org.

I'll be glad to share my panel with any who want to try it.
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Re: 856 for ZELLERSASN

Postby Heraclitus Akimbo » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:20 pm

wedgehed wrote:Here's a screenshot of the controller I made.


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Re: 856 for ZELLERSASN

Postby fuzzisokiguess » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:06 am

Nice!! I’m a Ctrlr controller too!

My midi capabilities are really limited, so Ctrlr is my go-to for the 856. Actually built a template using the v1.2 manual only to realize there were diffferences with 1.1 :facepalm:

I’m sure there are other options, but for me, it really opens up the 856, and allows really easy access to octaves etc.
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