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Re: 856 for ZELLERSASN

Postby jnam » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:11 pm

Seance wrote:
Heraclitus Akimbo wrote:Is there a one page cheat sheet for the 856 like the ones that were floating around for the Ct5?

bacegchsbis wrote:There isn’t yet, but I believe the the guy who did (one of) the Ct5 ref charts is going to work on one for the 856 as well!


This was posted by jnam over on TGP
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/psa-montreal-assembly-pedals.1751775/page-2
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And here's the printable PDF!
https://www.docdroid.net/Pnc2iBV/856-for-zellersasn.pdf

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Re: 856 for ZELLERSASN

Postby Seance » Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:55 pm

jnam wrote:

And here's the printable PDF!
https://www.docdroid.net/Pnc2iBV/856-for-zellersasn.pdf

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Re: 856 for ZELLERSASN

Postby Heraclitus Akimbo » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:25 pm

Yeah, that's the sweet squishy sorta summary I'm lookin' for.

I've managed a couple excursions with the 856, feels a lot like taking a laser pointer to a funhouse so far... I know that light is bouncing around somehow, and I'm controlling it (somehow) but I'm digging it even if I don't entirely grasp cause and effect.
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Re: 856 for ZELLERSASN

Postby Timv » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:38 am

Awhile ago it was mentioned that the newer firmware could be installed on the original 856’s so start/stop was on button push and not release and a few other changes.

Is that still a reality and when will the firmware be available to update with?
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Re: 856 for ZELLERSASN

Postby Jwar » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:59 pm

The Reverb sales! Hahahaha! Bunch of fuckers! Much more than I expected! Especially so soon!
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Re: 856 for ZELLERSASN

Postby solfege » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:28 am

Canada Post's tracking in the US is kinda less than clear. But I *think* mine should be arriving today.

How many times an hour is it acceptable to go down to the mailbox?
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Re: 856 for ZELLERSASN

Postby whoismarykelly » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:03 pm

Jwar wrote:The Reverb sales! Hahahaha! Bunch of fuckers! Much more than I expected! Especially so soon!


Not surprised at all. Most hype pedals that are hard to lay hands on can be stuck on a board and make cool sounds with minimal effort so its a call between whether you like the effect or whether you'll turn a quick profit. I'd guess most people who manage to buy an 856 probably aren't up for the learning curve and the amount of work required to get it to do things. Especially for people that like a pedal that you turn on and off and not one that requires a lot of knob turning and switch flicking to operate. Im sure some of these people were in the right place at the right time to get something they could make a few hundred dollars on but I think a lot more get the pedal and cant make heads or tails of it and bail.
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Re: 856 for ZELLERSASN

Postby shikawkee » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:07 pm

This thing is the craziest device ever. I have a loop going for hours now and have no idea how I got there. Dang...

Super cool though with the expression control and soft switches. It really should have come with a manual though so kudos to whoever came out with the PDF.
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Re: 856 for ZELLERSASN

Postby Seance » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:10 pm

shikawkee wrote:This thing is the craziest device ever. I have a loop going for hours now and have no idea how I got there. Dang...

Super cool though with the expression control and soft switches. It really should have come with a manual though so kudos to whoever came out with the PDF.

That would be jnam. He posted it over on TGP and over here too.

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And here's the printable PDF!
https://www.docdroid.net/Pnc2iBV/856-for-zellersasn.pdf

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Re: 856 for ZELLERSASN

Postby solfege » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:40 pm

It came. It's glorious. It's confusing. But mostly glorious.
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Re: 856 for ZELLERSASN

Postby Jwar » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:57 pm

whoismarykelly wrote:
Jwar wrote:The Reverb sales! Hahahaha! Bunch of fuckers! Much more than I expected! Especially so soon!


Not surprised at all. Most hype pedals that are hard to lay hands on can be stuck on a board and make cool sounds with minimal effort so its a call between whether you like the effect or whether you'll turn a quick profit. I'd guess most people who manage to buy an 856 probably aren't up for the learning curve and the amount of work required to get it to do things. Especially for people that like a pedal that you turn on and off and not one that requires a lot of knob turning and switch flicking to operate. Im sure some of these people were in the right place at the right time to get something they could make a few hundred dollars on but I think a lot more get the pedal and cant make heads or tails of it and bail.


I agree. I have been known to do that in the past but I've really, really wanted one of these and it definitely is a learning curve. Thing is, I found myself reading the manual and shit started to make sense.

I love how deep it is, especially the switches you can push down on. Insane. I didn't even know that was a possibility in technology. So, I'm majorly impressed. and looking forward to finishing the manual so I can actually use it. It's not play and go out of the box, which is actually a bit refreshing.
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Re: 856 for ZELLERSASN

Postby Heraclitus Akimbo » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:13 pm

My first somewhat purposeful excursion with the 856 (but still pretty random): https://clyp.it/nvahje4t?token=8c7fd248e8a291f31acd321917fce062

This is what I'm thinking of doing as part of a performance of "In C" coming up. I wanted to see if it would work to enter the cells as sequences in my venerable Electribe and then noodle with the output. So the chain here is EM1 > 856 > loop pedal.

Trying to decide if this is "good" and/or "interesting" enough to keep going and plug in more cells.

Edit: Take 2! Slowing things down some more... I was getting my note values mixed up the first time 'round. I think I need one more loop pedal to group sequences together... there's a couple awkward transitions here yet: https://clyp.it/cnclal0c?token=d9a6b2e46bea6fbff7d5a7eae4512f6d
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Re: 856 for ZELLERSASN

Postby solfege » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:17 pm

Jwar wrote:
whoismarykelly wrote:
Jwar wrote:The Reverb sales! Hahahaha! Bunch of fuckers! Much more than I expected! Especially so soon!


Not surprised at all. Most hype pedals that are hard to lay hands on can be stuck on a board and make cool sounds with minimal effort so its a call between whether you like the effect or whether you'll turn a quick profit. I'd guess most people who manage to buy an 856 probably aren't up for the learning curve and the amount of work required to get it to do things. Especially for people that like a pedal that you turn on and off and not one that requires a lot of knob turning and switch flicking to operate. Im sure some of these people were in the right place at the right time to get something they could make a few hundred dollars on but I think a lot more get the pedal and cant make heads or tails of it and bail.


I agree. I have been known to do that in the past but I've really, really wanted one of these and it definitely is a learning curve. Thing is, I found myself reading the manual and shit started to make sense.

I love how deep it is, especially the switches you can push down on. Insane. I didn't even know that was a possibility in technology. So, I'm majorly impressed. and looking forward to finishing the manual so I can actually use it. It's not play and go out of the box, which is actually a bit refreshing.


Spent far too much time today (given work I should be doing) reading manuals, going through the tutorial, and messing around a bit more. Not only have I found cool loops, but i've got at least one thing saved in a preset that I can run in auto-rec mode essentially as a triggered effect. Definitely found some things that this can do in live performance / improv with guitar. And it's only taken a couple hours. I get bailing when it's not completely intuitive, but I do wonder why you even buy a thing like this if that's what you want in an effect.
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Re: 856 for ZELLERSASN

Postby multi_s » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:24 pm

solfege wrote:Canada Post's tracking in the US is kinda less than clear. But I *think* mine should be arriving today.

How many times an hour is it acceptable to go down to the mailbox?


you can use the same number with USPS. when it is Canada Canadpost will have a more detailed description, once it is in the USA, usps will have a more detailed description. They both use the same number.

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Re: 856 for ZELLERSASN

Postby Heraclitus Akimbo » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:22 pm

Will be taking my 856 to its first gig next week! I think this will be my rig:

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