Let's talk baritones.



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Re: Let's talk baritones.

Postby Faldoe » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:34 pm

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From what I gathered from other people, they are poopy guitars. I'm not sure if it was in this forum or elsewhere, people said the neck angle was off and overall if was a mediocre guitar.
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Re: Let's talk baritones.

Postby goosekevin » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:49 am

squier bari antigua jazzmaster thingo is backed hard, i love mine
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Re: Let's talk baritones.

Postby Nelson Instruments » Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:15 am

Is there a particular scale length that players prefer for a baritone? I believe 28" is about "standard". I have heard of some who prefer a 30" scale for tension reasons.

Also is a bari a novelty instrument that you generally don't want to spend much on or would a $995 baritone be feasible?
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Re: Let's talk baritones.

Postby sonidero » Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:51 am

Shit a 30'' Bari from your hands with some extra winds on your 3 pups and copied off a Jazz with the same trem and a 5 way switch would kill... Semi hollow like that other one you did would be really kills...
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Re: Let's talk baritones.

Postby goosekevin » Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:42 am

Nelson Instruments wrote: Also is a bari a novelty instrument that you generally don't want to spend much on or would a $995 baritone be feasible?


i think it would be okay but maybe a it risky
baritones seem to sell best in the cheap bracket as an alternate guitar or something to inspire new ideas OR the super duper high end crazy EGC market
maybe a middle priced one could fill a gap in the market? or maybe theres a gap because there is no market
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Re: Let's talk baritones.

Postby sonidero » Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:15 am

Yeah there might not be cuase of the Squier IV and the BariTeles going for cheap... I tune my BariTele A-A and have a couple Bass' but I still want a IV...

Hollowbody JazzBari with trem would really rule in a Morriconegaze type of thing...
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Re: Let's talk baritones.

Postby Bon Hoga » Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:24 am

Nelson Instruments wrote:Is there a particular scale length that players prefer for a baritone? I believe 28" is about "standard". I have heard of some who prefer a 30" scale for tension reasons.

Also is a bari a novelty instrument that you generally don't want to spend much on or would a $995 baritone be feasible?


Mine is 28.6" and it's ok. I wouldn't like it any shorter than that though.
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Re: Let's talk baritones.

Postby Bon Hoga » Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:39 am

Bon Hoga wrote:I wouldn't like it any shorter than that though.


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Re: Let's talk baritones.

Postby backwardsvoyager » Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:03 am

goosekevin wrote:
Nelson Instruments wrote: Also is a bari a novelty instrument that you generally don't want to spend much on or would a $995 baritone be feasible?


i think it would be okay but maybe a it risky
baritones seem to sell best in the cheap bracket as an alternate guitar or something to inspire new ideas OR the super duper high end crazy EGC market
maybe a middle priced one could fill a gap in the market? or maybe theres a gap because there is no market

^ yeah this is all a good point. i would say that there are evidently many people interested in extended scale instruments but right now at least the majority of those buyers are dipping their toes in rather than fully adopting the scale, the fact that fender/squier have been able to sell a lot of sub-$500 baritone/VI type instruments as well as stuff like the eastwood and schecter models having some degree of popularity kinda proves that. also people are probably satisfied enough with the quality of those that they don't feel the need to look at more expensive instruments, unless they have EGC fever.
a Nelson baritone would no doubt be a great value and professional instrument but it's super hard to gauge whether it would actually sell.
one thing possibly worth considering instead is the 7/8 string market - a LOT of builders are making those guitars in the 1-2k bracket and selling a lot of them, yes they are generally aimed at a pretty specific market but i think a lot of the aesthetic is more of an ergonomic thing rather than people not being open to more quirky or vintage-inspired designs.
some food for thought anyway.
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Re: Let's talk baritones.

Postby ChetMagongalo » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:31 pm

Nelson Instruments wrote:Is there a particular scale length that players prefer for a baritone? I believe 28" is about "standard". I have heard of some who prefer a 30" scale for tension reasons.

Also is a bari a novelty instrument that you generally don't want to spend much on or would a $995 baritone be feasible?

I would definitely be interested in a $1K baritone from you
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Re: Let's talk baritones.

Postby Nelson Instruments » Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:49 pm

I'm thinking of offering the cosmonaut (the offset design I recently posted) in guitar, baritone, and bass.
I might as well just make up a few baritones. The fretting template is the only thing I'd need to purchase as I've decided that my existing neck tooling will work for it.
I just don't know how many I should make????
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Re: Let's talk baritones.

Postby Mudfuzz » Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:03 pm

Nelson Instruments wrote:Is there a particular scale length that players prefer for a baritone? I believe 28" is about "standard". I have heard of some who prefer a 30" scale for tension reasons.

Also is a bari a novelty instrument that you generally don't want to spend much on or would a $995 baritone be feasible?

It isn't a tension thing because you can either put on lighter or heavier strings, but there is a difference sound wise, 30" is twangier and snarlier, I use the same tuning on "normal" scale guitars all the time, different tools for different sounds :idk: I think the 27.5" and 28.5" are for people with small hands..
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one of these days I kind'a want to string a 30" + scaled thingamajig to E standard just to see what it would sound like in terms of overtones.
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Re: Let's talk baritones.

Postby Nelson Instruments » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:52 am

Interesting thougthts. When I had the bass VI instruments one if them was sold to a fellow who made it a baritone because he likes that scale for a bari.

The off-the-shelf fret template I can get is 28.5". I'll probably just do that since it would cost me over twice as much to have a custom one made and I don't feel like putting extra money into something that may not get people excited.
But I think 28.5" is a reasonable compromise?
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Re: Let's talk baritones.

Postby Mudfuzz » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:59 am

It's what the industry seems to have settled on.. and it's fine until someone wants to make a bass VI out of it :lol:
30" was actually more the norm for the few that popped up before the end of the 90's… now it's what most builders are doing.
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Re: Let's talk baritones.

Postby Jero » Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:51 am

So baritones have normal strings and bass vi has "bass" strings? And you cant turn a barotone into a vi unless its 30" scale right?

Yes I'm a child when it comes to this stuff hah
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