An Idea:



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An Idea:

Postby TweedBassman » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:28 pm

A true bypass loop pedal.




wait! come back!




with a feedback loop.








no really! hold on! here's the catch.





2 footswitches. "1" turns the loop on and off. "2" selects between the feedback knob.... or dynamic/envelope control of the feedback loop. harder you play, the more the loop (and anything in it) oscillates.



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Re: An Idea:

Postby hazelwould » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:39 pm

Lamp and photocell FTW!!! :wahwah:
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Re: An Idea:

Postby letsgocoyote » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:55 pm

i was skeptical until I hit the envelope part. thats genius. i think there is alot of practical applicayion of envelope controlled effects.

what would be cool is to perhaps put a toggle and a jack on it, so you could use the envelope as an expression pedal for other pedals. so like, put a space echo in the loop, attacha trs cable, and you can turn on the loop (with the re-20 in it) and have the delay time being controlled by your envelope. but that might be lots of trouble to make. but it would be neat. it'd be especially neat for pedals with modulation speed expression jacks.
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Re: An Idea:

Postby TweedBassman » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:10 pm

letsgocoyote wrote:i was skeptical until I hit the envelope part. thats genius. i think there is alot of practical applicayion of envelope controlled effects.

what would be cool is to perhaps put a toggle and a jack on it, so you could use the envelope as an expression pedal for other pedals. so like, put a space echo in the loop, attacha trs cable, and you can turn on the loop (with the re-20 in it) and have the delay time being controlled by your envelope. but that might be lots of trouble to make. but it would be neat. it'd be especially neat for pedals with modulation speed expression jacks.


yup, you could use an insert cable (TRS to dual mono 1/4") to make it an envelope controlled expression pedal.
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Re: An Idea:

Postby TweedBassman » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:11 pm

hazelwould wrote:Lamp and photocell FTW!!! :wahwah:


you know what i'm sayin' :rock:

it wouldn't be that hard, gotta wonder if it already exists. :idk:
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Re: An Idea:

Postby hazelwould » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:27 pm

I doubt this exists. I know midfi does some stuff with envelopes like this in the Clari(not).

I'd be really interested in the outcome of this!! Keep us posted if decide to try it out.
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Re: An Idea:

Postby hazelwould » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:30 pm

letsgocoyote wrote:i was skeptical until I hit the envelope part. thats genius. i think there is alot of practical applicayion of envelope controlled effects.

what would be cool is to perhaps put a toggle and a jack on it, so you could use the envelope as an expression pedal for other pedals. so like, put a space echo in the loop, attacha trs cable, and you can turn on the loop (with the re-20 in it) and have the delay time being controlled by your envelope. but that might be lots of trouble to make. but it would be neat. it'd be especially neat for pedals with modulation speed expression jacks.


I agree. It's something you've gotta step outside of the box to really hash out something cool.

These idea really are on the right track. :ewok:
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Re: An Idea:

Postby hazelwould » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:35 pm

Or use this concept as a blend between two loops. So you dig in and your at one loop, or play soft and your at the other.

I think the key is making sure the lamp is really dynamic according to your playing.
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Re: An Idea:

Postby hazelwould » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:37 pm

TweedBassman wrote:
letsgocoyote wrote:i was skeptical until I hit the envelope part. thats genius. i think there is alot of practical applicayion of envelope controlled effects.

what would be cool is to perhaps put a toggle and a jack on it, so you could use the envelope as an expression pedal for other pedals. so like, put a space echo in the loop, attacha trs cable, and you can turn on the loop (with the re-20 in it) and have the delay time being controlled by your envelope. but that might be lots of trouble to make. but it would be neat. it'd be especially neat for pedals with modulation speed expression jacks.


yup, you could use an insert cable (TRS to dual mono 1/4") to make it an envelope controlled expression pedal.



Sorry to bombard... But YES! An envelope controlled expression filter!!! That would be the coolest thing EVAR!!
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Re: An Idea:

Postby Gunner Recall » Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:02 am

the envelope expression would be a really interesting twist...sounds good :thumb:
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Re: An Idea:

Postby TweedBassman » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:30 am

morningstaru wrote:the envelope expression would be a really interesting twist...sounds good :thumb:


that was actually the original idea, but it wouldn't take much more to make it a feedback loop too so it's gonna be dual purpose.

i think a huge market for something like this would be in the electronic music and even studio/production setting. you could run a track from your recording, say, the bass drum, to the whatchamacallit and then have the whatchamacallit modulate an effect in rhythm with the bass drum. this can be done with most DAW's, but now it could be done analog! :dance:


the big issue is going to be tuning it to respond well, with nice attack/fall characteristics, minimum and maximum settins, etc.
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Re: An Idea:

Postby hazelwould » Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:28 am

Think about how cool it would be using an envelope expression with a delay toncontrol the feedback. So you could play softly and have a steady repeat but then you dig in and play fast and it could get this awesome wash of sound. Or even have it set up with a distortion pedal to control the drive knob :eel:! That would be like ubber dynamic! I'm thinking of so many ideas with the envelope expression pedal.

DO IT!!


But yea,

The key would be to have a knob (intensity) to control how your lamp glows according to your playing dynamics. :ewok:
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Re: An Idea:

Postby letsgocoyote » Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:33 pm

such a good idea. i hope you can bring it to fruition
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