Be(a)st Records of the year thread, 2017 (version)



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Re: Be(a)st Records of the year thread, 2017 (version)

Postby GardenoftheDead » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:20 am

I feel ya case

Also, Mirror Reaper by Bell Witch is fucking amazing
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Re: Be(a)st Records of the year thread, 2017 (version)

Postby D.o.S. » Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:59 am

Deafheaven and that song are both utterly unremarkable to me even if you don't post anymore. I do miss the endless bantz though.

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Re: Be(a)st Records of the year thread, 2017 (version)

Postby $harkToootth » Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:29 pm

The DEAFHEAVEN thing is an interesting case study. I really liked Sunbather when it came out...but at no point did I think it was Black Metal. Just because there is tremolo riffs, blast beats and screaming does not constitute music as "trying to be black metal". Those attributes and the etymology of those attributes can be found elsewhere (I honestly thought it was a really slow screamo meets some sort of 'gaze' album).

I kind of want to start applying a "tag" of "not-metal" to my own tunes because I like screaming, tremolo riffs and blast beats but lyrically and 'image' (maybe 'personally') I could not be further from metal. I really like what Goroth said in his podcast (oh fuck, this shit has gone meta!) about a "false sense of brotherhood" and other attributes associated with the 'image' of metal.

The Soft Pink Truth's one album does a better job at deconstructing this than I do.
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Re: Be(a)st Records of the year thread, 2017 (version)

Postby D.o.S. » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:28 pm

$harkToootth wrote:The DEAFHEAVEN thing is an interesting case(candy) study.


Tee hee.

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Re: Be(a)st Records of the year thread, 2017 (version)

Postby casecandy » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:57 pm

I absolutely loved that Soft Pink Truth album. I think it encapsulated something about how people relate to black metal. Like... you want to respect it and pay homage to it, because you unironically love it, but at the same time acknowledge what Norman Brannon of Texas is the Reason called "the high camp of black metal," that it is kindof ridiculous, too. Depending on what mood I'm in I lean one way or the other.
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Re: Be(a)st Records of the year thread, 2017 (version)

Postby D.o.S. » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:59 pm

That is a truly awful band name though.
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Re: Be(a)st Records of the year thread, 2017 (version)

Postby casecandy » Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:01 pm

Makes me think of a big, flaccid dong.
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Re: Be(a)st Records of the year thread, 2017 (version)

Postby D.o.S. » Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:02 pm

Texas is the reason?
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Re: Be(a)st Records of the year thread, 2017 (version)

Postby casecandy » Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:04 pm

Oh LOL, I thought you meant Soft Pink Truth LMAO

TitR is just a line from a Misfits song; personally I could take it or leave it

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Re: Be(a)st Records of the year thread, 2017 (version)

Postby GardenoftheDead » Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:57 pm

$harkToootth wrote:The DEAFHEAVEN thing is an interesting case study. I really liked Sunbather when it came out...but at no point did I think it was Black Metal. Just because there is tremolo riffs, blast beats and screaming does not constitute music as "trying to be black metal". Those attributes and the etymology of those attributes can be found elsewhere (I honestly thought it was a really slow screamo meets some sort of 'gaze' album).

I kind of want to start applying a "tag" of "not-metal" to my own tunes because I like screaming, tremolo riffs and blast beats but lyrically and 'image' (maybe 'personally') I could not be further from metal. I really like what Goroth said in his podcast (oh fuck, this shit has gone meta!) about a "false sense of brotherhood" and other attributes associated with the 'image' of metal.

The Soft Pink Truth's one album does a better job at deconstructing this than I do.


To be fair, Kerry McCoy says they don't consider themselves to be a black metal band.
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Re: Be(a)st Records of the year thread, 2017 (version)

Postby $harkToootth » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:16 pm

Yes, which is why it is so interesting to me. People started hating the band for a label that was applied by listeners and subsequently cleared up by the band.

It's kind of like that moment when your friend gets drunk starts making fun of you, and then gets mad at you because they made fun of you.
Or my 2015 yearly review where I got a 4/5 for "flexibility" because I am "too flexible".
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Re: Be(a)st Records of the year thread, 2017 (version)

Postby Strange Tales » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:19 pm

To be fair I've always hated Deafheaven because they fucking suck.
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Re: Be(a)st Records of the year thread, 2017 (version)

Postby $harkToootth » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:31 pm

Which is fine, cause you don't hate them because you thought, that they thought, they were black metal.
You've always been a fair guy Strange!
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Re: Be(a)st Records of the year thread, 2017 (version)

Postby D.o.S. » Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:09 am

I'm sure they decried the endless "this record is the best black metal album of the year" hype for Sunbather.

Oh, wait, no. No they definitely didn't do that. So instead, in effect, the average black metal fan had loads of people explaining to you why Macklemore made the best rap record of the year hands down and if you didn't agree you were just a close-minded purist.
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Re: Be(a)st Records of the year thread, 2017 (version)

Postby $harkToootth » Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:23 am

I see where this going, and I agree in that respect.
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