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ILF COLLAB!: Trump's Harsh Noise Wall (Album on Page 10)

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In meetings for a couple of hours but I realized as I was making one that we don't actually have a thread on what people use -- something that was hammered home when I didn't use a DOD Death Metal :lol:

But yeah, since there's like five of us, I figured it'd be cool to talk about the gear we use. Once I'm done talking to people I'll post my latest, as well as the layering that went into making a 20-something minute track that, by design, doesn't go anywhere.


Signal chain real quick: Pink Noise from the Malekko Noise>Gristlizer>Boss PS-2>RMA Dirty Doper.
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I know soundcloud doesn't work anymore but here it is:
https://soundcloud.com/escapecraft/dona ... noise-wall
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:!!!:

Let's see...my last setup was (like 2 weeks ago):

Feedback guitar (completely absent in final mix...was just to trigger) -> boss rsd-10 -> amps

Boss rsd-2 had the copilot broadcast going to the trigger input and bled through which increased the volume and drowned out everything almost and the carrier osc out of the moog mf102 going for keyboard tracking. I'm sure I put dirt on the whole thing too but don't remember (been doing other stuff lately).

Basically I was time stretching feedback beyond the limits of the rsd-10 to just artifacts. Put it on YouTube, got 2 instant thumbs down, took it off and put something else up (should've just left it up...but there was some other reason I don't remember). I wasn't entirely happy with the result (it was like 85℅ what I was going for).

I remember the dirt! It was the Alesis 3630 craziness...kinda helped control the overall thing. (Copilot was pushing so hot voltage into the rsd trigger in...it is meant for a switch).

I will dig out the aiff recording.

My old old setup for live shows was a gameboy (doing noise via the chip quickly) or another white noise kinda thing (like a sampled static line) and a korg ax1000g feedbacker into my Sovtek with 4x12s because I wasn't allowed to use a pa.

I know, I'm probably not the harsh noise guy you were looking for but I enjoy it.
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You're always the harsh noise guy I'm looking for.

That sounds rad. Looking forward to hearing the recording.

Here's a recording of how I built Trump's Harsh Noise Wall:
https://soundcloud.com/escapecraft/trum ... l-elements
0:00 - 0:20 Pink Noise
0:20 - 0:33 Pink Noise + Gristleizer
0:33 - 0:46 Pink Noise + Gristle + PS2 (at full wet, rolled back to 50% in mode 4)
0:46 - 1:05 Pink Noise + Gristle + PS2 At 50 Percent + Doper

And then turning them off in reverse order.
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Wow. Technical difficulties...Garage Band autoleveled it and put it back to safe listening when I export it (I edged it)...weird. Made it sound all weird and brought out the wrong frequencies. I guess youtube and soundcloud have been less a problem than garageband this whole time.

Any tips?

Yea, hmmm....this is interesting though. Maybe time to switch to audacity or something.

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How faux pas is it to mainly be running a laptop running Max MSP patches that I scream through into a PA with delay on it?

Cause I did a performance a few weeks ago that sounded like an endless supply of trains docking into the depths of hell
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Good stuff D.o.S.

I've almost unjaded myself enough to get back into doing stuff.. I've never had a "set" setup I always have gone by mood..
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Oh shit, I thought this was going to be an ILF hnw comp. 'Cause we should do one of those.

I used to have noiseboxes that I used specifically for stuff like this, mainly the Dwarfcraft Thumping Double Squaresnakes and Audible Disease Infection 3. Recently I've just been plugging my miniboard back into itself. Main ingredients is the LAL 86 oscillating to create a sound source into the AD-9, with the wet out going back into the 86, and the dry out into amp or whatever. I put stuff like the Possessed, GB24 or ring mod in between when I want more variety. It's simple, but effective. Obviously I'm short four Death Metals or so.
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^ that's not a bad idea about the comp. Kind of wishing I'd sacked up and made one of these for the Vigeland mausoleum, but I'm kind of glad I pussied out too since I don't think it would have gone over all that well for me or anyone else. :lol: :lol:

lordgalvar wrote:Wow. Technical difficulties...Garage Band autoleveled it and put it back to safe listening when I export it (I edged it)...weird. Made it sound all weird and brought out the wrong frequencies. I guess youtube and soundcloud have been less a problem than garageband this whole time.

Any tips?

Yea, hmmm....this is interesting though. Maybe time to switch to audacity or something.

It's good stuff D.o.S.!
That's real weird. I haven't used garageband since, like, 2004 though since I've always been a PC dude, so I'm not sure how helpful I can be. Audacity is one option. Reaver is another (Free with a pay-if-you-like-it license).
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Not really harsh noise, bot noisy for sure(can't get the Vimeo-embedding to work):
https://vimeo.com/51400415

From a gig I did 4.5 years ago.
If I remember correctly my setup was:
Macbook with AudioMulch running:
-two low frequency sinewave oscillators
-white noise generator
-two short loops made from a Mahler symphony
> into Behringer mixer

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D.o.S. wrote:^ that's not a bad idea about the comp. Kind of wishing I'd sacked up and made one of these for the Vigeland mausoleum, but I'm kind of glad I pussied out too since I don't think it would have gone over all that well for me or anyone else. :lol: :lol:

lordgalvar wrote:Wow. Technical difficulties...Garage Band autoleveled it and put it back to safe listening when I export it (I edged it)...weird. Made it sound all weird and brought out the wrong frequencies. I guess youtube and soundcloud have been less a problem than garageband this whole time.

Any tips?

Yea, hmmm....this is interesting though. Maybe time to switch to audacity or something.

It's good stuff D.o.S.!
That's real weird. I haven't used garageband since, like, 2004 though since I've always been a PC dude, so I'm not sure how helpful I can be. Audacity is one option. Reaver is another (Free with a pay-if-you-like-it license).
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Cheers on the advice. What you describe Mudfuzz is exactly what is happening...had no idea it did any of that (I hadn't really pushed it since I did a comp track way back when...but it probably makes sense why my drone comp track sounded different too).

I guess reaper is my only option (because I ain't paying over $40 for a program that may not like running on my old ass imac). Or I could just go back to my tascam 8-track...probably do that (I always forget it exists).

The last proper recordings I really spent anytime with were on ADAT. Haha.
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lordgalvar wrote:Cheers on the advice. What you describe Mudfuzz is exactly what is happening...had no idea it did any of that (I hadn't really pushed it since I did a comp track way back when...but it probably makes sense why my drone comp track sounded different too).

I guess reaper is my only option (because I ain't paying over $40 for a program that may not like running on my old ass imac). Or I could just go back to my tascam 8-track...probably do that (I always forget it exists).

The last proper recordings I really spent anytime with were on ADAT. Haha.
I like all those ideas, I sometimes miss having to use gear that is not as easy to use as now [also I've always liked adats] the first noise recordings I did [around 99/00] I had to use a video editing program to assemble stuff recorded in the first gen of logic because every time I'd try to mix it would crash the computer :lol:
https://that-band-you-hate.bandcamp.com ... resolution :idk: then later I remixed the whole thing into one big mess https://that-band-you-hate.bandcamp.com ... amned-gods the key program for me back in the day was peak bias, great program… sad they died..

oh gear.. this pretty much on everything.. on all that..
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I have never used a PDS.
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