let's list every Rat clone (and also just chat Rats)



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Re: let's list every Rat clone (and also just chat Rats)

Postby omarwhite » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:38 pm

Besides the deucetone, that is. Looking for one stomp that will initiate a signal to both amps I use.
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Re: let's list every Rat clone (and also just chat Rats)

Postby qersty » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:38 pm

I used to have one of them abominable pedals dont thread on me deluxes. it was a cool pedal but huge and i felt i wasnt using it enough so i sold it. kinda want a rat again. anyone know about what other ics are good? i heard the tl071 is cool in rats
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Re: let's list every Rat clone (and also just chat Rats)

Postby 418a » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:57 am

who knows?
is Walrus Iron Horse tha same beast as the Keeley mod Rat?
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Re: let's list every Rat clone (and also just chat Rats)

Postby frigid midget » Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:19 am

Ymmv, but I never noticed more than a sublte different between the different IC version rats I used. And not even in a better/worse kinda way, just different.
Never realy understood the whole LM308 craze :idk:
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Re: let's list every Rat clone (and also just chat Rats)

Postby Ghost Hip » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:40 pm

frigid midget wrote:Ymmv, but I never noticed more than a sublte different between the different IC version rats I used. And not even in a better/worse kinda way, just different.
Never realy understood the whole LM308 craze :idk:


It's like people wanting DMM's with that one MN2whatever chip. (I preferred my 2000s reissue big box DMM over the Howard Davis calibrated 80s one I had) Or wanting Jags/Jazzys to have the ORIGINAL VINTAGE ACCURATE switches/trem/bridge. People think some shit is the best because its original when its just different (if at all).
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Re: let's list every Rat clone (and also just chat Rats)

Postby rickenbastard » Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:39 am

That Electrofoods Nepenthes is awesome.
And also the Fuzzlord Drone Master
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Re: let's list every Rat clone (and also just chat Rats)

Postby Mudfuzz » Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:14 pm

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frigid midget wrote:Ymmv, but I never noticed more than a sublte different between the different IC version rats I used. And not even in a better/worse kinda way, just different.
Never realy understood the whole LM308 craze :idk:


It's like people wanting DMM's with that one MN2whatever chip. (I preferred my 2000s reissue big box DMM over the Howard Davis calibrated 80s one I had) Or wanting Jags/Jazzys to have the ORIGINAL VINTAGE ACCURATE switches/trem/bridge. People think some shit is the best because its original when its just different (if at all).

It's the whole if I just get that one "perfect one" I'l be good! I'll play better, sound better, be a better person, cure cancer with my tonez :thumb: Or I use the "perfect one" so MY tonez is best and everyone that don't use what I use don't has real tonez :thumb:
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Re: let's list every Rat clone (and also just chat Rats)

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Re: let's list every Rat clone (and also just chat Rats)

Postby omarwhite » Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:03 pm

rickenbastard wrote:That Electrofoods Nepenthes is awesome.
And also the Fuzzlord Drone Master


Got to try the Nepenthes and agree, it is the shit.
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Re: let's list every Rat clone (and also just chat Rats)

Postby Snufkino » Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:19 pm

I've got to admit the new EHX offering is kind of genius. Just put out an unmodified Rat 2 with the modern equivalent of the LM308 (i.e. something that's technically a bit crap and cheap for them to get, just like the LM308's where) in their pedalboard-friendly enclosure. And any actual changes they have made to the circuit are subtle; as mentioned in that demo, a bit more volume and slightly smoother taper on the filter.

FWIW, I recently got hold of a Deucetone for cheap and it's awesome. Uses OP07's, a crappy jfet, and has just a couple of component values that are different to my 87-89 Rat. Sounds 98% the same. Doesn't quite get the same results at super-low gain, but since it's got clean/dirty modes I think I can live with that. Plus the wiring options are great, as I like the option of having a Rat before and after my reverb/delays. And having both at the same time creates a lovely Rat Sandwich. I had to open it up to switch round all the ins and outs though but it was worth it.

I need to build a deuce-clone before EHX beat me to it. :cool:
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Re: let's list every Rat clone (and also just chat Rats)

Postby WORMDIRT » Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:27 pm

frigid midget wrote:Ymmv, but I never noticed more than a sublte different between the different IC version rats I used. And not even in a better/worse kinda way, just different.
Never realy understood the whole LM308 craze :idk:


I did an A/B between the new chip, an lm308 chip, and a metal can LM308 in a late 80s rat and didn't really find any real difference. Now clipping diodes, that's where the fun is. All my rats are secretly turbo rats
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Re: let's list every Rat clone (and also just chat Rats)

Postby frigid midget » Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:52 pm

Pretty sure someone already mensioned the Yellowcake Furry Burrito? Figured it's on-topic enough to share that I just made a low ball bid for one.
I'm not expecting any miracles from it, but the two drive controls and the starve options made it seem worth a shot.

Is it me, or do Mosfet overdrives typically don't like to be used on their own, in front of a really clean amp? :idk:

I always thought dirt pedals prefer clean platforms, but that only seems the case with my fuzz pedals, not so much with my dod gunslinger :idk:

So yeah, I'm now hoping a rat-ish pedal (even though I swore I'd never fall for a rat again) will do the trick.
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Re: let's list every Rat clone (and also just chat Rats)

Postby ck3 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:50 pm

Yellowcake's Furry Burrito is an interesting rodent. It's significantly darker than a stock Rat overall, provides superior bass thumpage with the fat switch engaged, and offers more fine tuning around gain character. More than passable Muff textures also emerge with a bit of tweaking, and certain starve settings make crunchy horn fuzz with muted pick attack possible. I've actually been incorporating mine into the latest incarnation of my board and still dig the aforementioned starve textures verily.

In related news and against my better judgement, the Little Bear R.attack is starting to seem appealing again ... though it would probably overlap a great deal with my Earthbound Audio V3 Iron Pig.
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Re: let's list every Rat clone (and also just chat Rats)

Postby frigid midget » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:47 am

Well...i hope you're right, the seller just agreed to that low ball offer :)
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