2018 releases (NAMM, Superbooth, Musikmesse)

[echorec]

Ditto Jam X2 Looper is the tightest, wettest rhythm guitarist you'll ever encounter! Every time you plug in is like prom night.

I feel like they're trying to tell me something with that ad copy, but I just don't know what.

[spacelordmother]

That has excellent potential for abuse.

[01010111]

So, a pedal that uses some kind of machine algorithm to listen to what you’re playing and mathematically find the beat is simpler than adding a MIDI sync option to a simple looper?

OK

[spacelordmother]

Then when it won’t sync it’s not an issue with the pedal, it’s an issue with your drummer.

[01010111]

THE PEDAL IS ALWAYS RIGHT


HUMAN DRUMMER IS ALWAYS WRONG


HUMAN DRUMMER MUST CONFORM TO PEDAL

[DRodriguez]

Ableton has been able to do this for a while, proving once again, computers are superior. All hail master bots!

[01010111]

I’M READY FOR THE SINGULARITY.

I’M READY TO WORSHIP AT THE ALTER OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE

RECOMMEND ME MY LIFE, MIGHTY RECOMMENDER SYSTEM FROM AMAZON

[whoismarykelly]

So, a pedal that uses some kind of machine algorithm to listen to what you’re playing and mathematically find the beat is simpler than adding a MIDI sync option to a simple looper?

OK

Its explicitly designed to not require a fixed midi clock or require the band to play to a click. I wonder if it is time stretching or compressing the loops in a very marginal way.

[Bartimaeus]

I'd bet its time stretching in a similar way to ableton, as DRodriguez mentioned.

The fact that they never let you hear the loops on their own – you always hear the guitarist layering over the loops – makes me thing that there's some of the same annoying stretch artifacts as ableton. Even so, it seems pretty cool tbh.

[Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D.]

unless they totally revolutionized the technology, these types of things always have a hard time catching the beat unless its like a simple 4 on the floor w/o much else going on.

[Inconuucl]

I'd only be interested in it to see how much I can make it glitch out, other than that it seems like a waste.

[Inconuucl]

https://www.facebook.com/DIMEHEAD/posts ... 4854838706

I can't wait until this becomes unobtanium.

[01010111]

So, a pedal that uses some kind of machine algorithm to listen to what you’re playing and mathematically find the beat is simpler than adding a MIDI sync option to a simple looper?

OK

Its explicitly designed to not require a fixed midi clock or require the band to play to a click. I wonder if it is time stretching or compressing the loops in a very marginal way.

It only works if the band can ignore the timing of the loop, the person who’s controlling the loop can follow the band and ignore the loop timing, and the person controlling the looper never stops playing so the loop is always in sync

That sounds much more complicated than syncing with an external midi clock to me

[whoismarykelly]

So, a pedal that uses some kind of machine algorithm to listen to what you’re playing and mathematically find the beat is simpler than adding a MIDI sync option to a simple looper?

OK

Its explicitly designed to not require a fixed midi clock or require the band to play to a click. I wonder if it is time stretching or compressing the loops in a very marginal way.

It only works if the band can ignore the timing of the loop, the person who’s controlling the loop can follow the band and ignore the loop timing, and the person controlling the looper never stops playing so the loop is always in sync

That sounds much more complicated than syncing with an external midi clock to me

Have you ever looped with a band? The things you're saying have to be done consciously are the things that naturally happen when people play music together. Tempos drift naturally. Our hearing tends to focus on a single reference rather than struggling to decide between a looper and a live drummer. If this works it would just make the looper part a non-issue. If you practice and are well-versed in using loopers anyway then the pedal shouldn't have to do that much work.

[01010111]

So, a pedal that uses some kind of machine algorithm to listen to what you’re playing and mathematically find the beat is simpler than adding a MIDI sync option to a simple looper?

OK

Its explicitly designed to not require a fixed midi clock or require the band to play to a click. I wonder if it is time stretching or compressing the loops in a very marginal way.

It only works if the band can ignore the timing of the loop, the person who’s controlling the loop can follow the band and ignore the loop timing, and the person controlling the looper never stops playing so the loop is always in sync

That sounds much more complicated than syncing with an external midi clock to me

Have you ever looped with a band? The things you're saying have to be done consciously are the things that naturally happen when people play music together. Tempos drift naturally. Our hearing tends to focus on a single reference rather than struggling to decide between a looper and a live drummer. If this works it would just make the looper part a non-issue. If you practice and are well-versed in using loopers anyway then the pedal shouldn't have to do that much work.

Whenever I’ve used a looper with other people, we end up ignoring looper because it’s too difficult to keep everyone on tempo with the looper.

I guess this has a built-in mic? So, I guess it’ll keep changing the tempo even if you’re not playing. Though, I guess you’re fucked if the audience tries to clap along