Winter NAMM / 2018 notes



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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby Gone Fission » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:00 pm

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repoman wrote:What is Gibson's design process?


"No one will want this unless it's a copy of the guitar we made in 1958. Throw some leftover parts on it, call it a Special or something, and lets clear this inventory."


http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric ... ird-X.aspx
http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric ... N-225.aspx
http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric ... ustom.aspx
http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric ... -Suit.aspx

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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby PeteeBee » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:17 pm

It’s like they’re trying to go bankrupt
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby Olin » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:27 pm

Diabolically bad guitars. I joke about wearing zoot suits regularly and Gibson are actually fuckin' doing it.
If these sell anything more than "dismally" I'll be astounded.
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby lost in music » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:38 pm

I thought the zoot suits were from like 10 years ago or something. I think they're pretty. They don't look like actual zoot suits, you guys...
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby lost in music » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:40 pm

I'm also the guy who gets wide-eyed about marbled ibanez jems though, so ymmv.
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby gnomethrone » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:50 pm

Oh shit those gibson product pages have comment sections and people are just roasting the Firebird X:
" 'member when Homer Simpson designed a car that ruined his half-brother's company? That."

"i feel this guitar would burst into flames with one drop of sweat onto that memory chip"

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Also it looks like a bowling ball."

"Hahahahaha.... are you for real? It really does look like a bowling ball...."
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Re: A few NAMM nuggets

Postby adamajah » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:15 pm

tremolo3 wrote:I've heard Spacemen utility pedals are also great and buffers alone are like $200, they are that good. :joy:


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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby adamajah » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:19 pm

gnomethrone wrote:Fender guitars creation process:
1. Write down design features of all pre-80's models on slips of paper
2. Place slips in a hat.
3. Pull them out one by one till you have this year's model
"Alright let's see, it's gonna be mustang shaped, have a 72 deluxe tele pickguard, a strat trem, aaaaand duo sonic pickups."
"What kind of bridge, sir?"
"Eh whatever we got laying around the warehouse."



1-3 is basically every guitar builder's design process, especially boutique. Just move the era-slider to their personal taste. haha

I don't mind it most of the time, especially if it's riffing off vintage japanese stuff
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby Aghartha » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:35 pm

Gone Fission wrote:
Aghartha wrote:
repoman wrote:What is Gibson's design process?


"No one will want this unless it's a copy of the guitar we made in 1958. Throw some leftover parts on it, call it a Special or something, and lets clear this inventory."


http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric ... ird-X.aspx
http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric ... N-225.aspx
http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric ... ustom.aspx
http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric ... -Suit.aspx

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Colonel Walter E. Kurtz: [Is] my [design process] unsound?
Captain Benjamin L. Willard: I don't see any [design process] at all, sir.


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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby $harkToootth » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:44 pm

Can we get a run down of all the transparent overdrives to choose from? I'm on the market for about 5 or 6 of them.
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby Aghartha » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:56 pm

At what point do transparent overdrives lose their transparency when stacked? Or would they be transparent all the way down?
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby popvulture » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:06 pm

Guys, I think after merely looking at those new Gibson pics, I am now a member of Smash Mouth.
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby ProCarsteNation » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:05 pm

those Zoot Suits are awesome!
The Rainbow might be a bit much and I don't care for the headstock
or the weird fucking placement of the selector switch (one might get into that?)
but come on!
black & orange
Blue & red

those seethrough humbuckers


I mean if it were some boutique guy getting those layers from say old skateboards
there would be ooohs & aaahs
but since it's Gibson trying just a little bit something different
there's panties & bunches

maybe Gibson was ahaed of the times those 10 years ago,
but to get that same reaction now?
how forward thinking ILF, chapeau! :lol:
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby $harkToootth » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:09 pm

Gone Fission wrote:http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/SG/Gibson-USA/SG-Zoot-Suit.aspx

I have been watching an inordinate amount of 'To Catch A Predator' lately so this could be just me. But 'Cherry Poppin' Daddies' totally has me triggered.
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby echorec » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:43 pm

PeteeBee wrote:It’s like they’re trying to go bankrupt


Maybe they are? By devaluing Gibson, they're setting the table for a buyout. The corporate world doesn't do layoffs at the top. They do golden parachutes. Also, by ruining their current models, they're potentially driving the prices up of earlier Gibsons. I imagine several of their execs have closets full of unplayed instruments that they could liquidate for a new vacation house.

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Also, how many Gibson loyalists want a pink, semi-hollow PRS knock-off? It really looks like they don't know their customers at all.

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