2018 releases (NAMM, Superbooth, Musikmesse)



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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby dubkitty » Tue May 29, 2018 4:22 pm

i guess I'm not as impressed by the 11 as i might have hoped. there's something weird about the sounds that it's hard for me to describe...they sound crude to me, not a good lo-fi kind of crude but rather like the parameters haven't been tweaked as subtly as is true of more boutiquey reverbs. the reverse setting pales compared to my Alesis Midiverb II, and that thing is like 25 years old!
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby jrfox92 » Tue May 29, 2018 4:39 pm

dubkitty wrote:i guess I'm not as impressed by the 11 as i might have hoped. there's something weird about the sounds that it's hard for me to describe...they sound crude to me, not a good lo-fi kind of crude but rather like the parameters haven't been tweaked as subtly as is true of more boutiquey reverbs. the reverse setting pales compared to my Alesis Midiverb II, and that thing is like 25 years old!

I mean...it's EHX. Their effects have always been good enough but not super amazing.

Also, imo, Rupert's demos suck and always have.
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby Chankgeez » Tue May 29, 2018 5:06 pm

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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby Inconuucl » Tue May 29, 2018 6:09 pm


Oh man, oh man. :snax: :snax: :snax: :snax:
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby infamousalien » Tue May 29, 2018 7:06 pm

jrfox92 wrote:I mean...it's EHX. Their effects have always been good enough but not super amazing.
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Except for, like, you know, making a bunch of effects other companies have built a career off cloning. Other than that though... :picard:
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby Chankgeez » Tue May 29, 2018 7:33 pm

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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby jrfox92 » Tue May 29, 2018 7:46 pm

infamousalien wrote:Except for, like, you know, making a bunch of effects other companies have built a career off cloning *and improving.

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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby tremolo3 » Wed May 30, 2018 1:28 pm

jrfox92 wrote:
infamousalien wrote:Except for, like, you know, making a bunch of effects other companies have built a career off cloning *and improving.

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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby Dungus » Wed May 30, 2018 2:33 pm

That EHX demo.... Sometimes I think they intentionally only market to 40 year olds. Wicked Game??!! The obligatory Pink Floyd bit, something that sounds like a 90s kids cartoon theme and a bunch of 80s solos. Absolute pish.
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby infamousalien » Wed May 30, 2018 5:06 pm

jrfox92 wrote:
infamousalien wrote:Except for, like, you know, making a bunch of effects other companies have built a career off cloning *and improving.

:poke:


What pedals of theirs do you think were improved? I think there are a lot of clones of big muffs they don't make anymore but they're still compared to the originals in demos as the standard. I haven't found anyone who makes a flanger as good as the original electric mistress and all the clones fall short. Not to mention no one has come close to the poly chorus, poly phase, small stone, or original POG.
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby Inconuucl » Wed May 30, 2018 6:03 pm

infamousalien wrote:
jrfox92 wrote:
infamousalien wrote:Except for, like, you know, making a bunch of effects other companies have built a career off cloning *and improving.

:poke:


What pedals of theirs do you think were improved? I think there are a lot of clones of big muffs they don't make anymore but they're still compared to the originals in demos as the standard. I haven't found anyone who makes a flanger as good as the original electric mistress and all the clones fall short. Not to mention no one has come close to the poly chorus, poly phase, small stone, or original POG.

Most big muffs with mids control > og big muff. :idk:

Besides, you're bringing in their classic designs, whereas the original comment dealt with their new designs which have all been half baked, in my opinion. I feel that EHX always gets so close to making absolute bangers but always misses that one crucial step in the base design that derails the whole thing. Look at the super Pulsar, it has every feature that I could ever want in a trem, but then the tremolo part itself just sounds like shit. The Canyon I feel also suffers from the same problem.
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby Gone Fission » Wed May 30, 2018 7:03 pm

Dungus wrote:That EHX demo.... Sometimes I think they intentionally only market to 40 year olds. Wicked Game??!! The obligatory Pink Floyd bit, something that sounds like a 90s kids cartoon theme and a bunch of 80s solos. Absolute pish.


I'm in my 40s and no sale. I could cope with the kitsch (though it didn't help matters), but those sounds are just bad. And while the performance features are pretty cool as far as they go, no stereo, no presets, no MIDI . . . and the sounds are bad.
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby infamousalien » Thu May 31, 2018 11:41 am

Inconuucl wrote:Besides, you're bringing in their classic designs, whereas the original comment dealt with their new designs


jrfox92 wrote:it's EHX. Their effects have always been good enough but not super amazing.


Reading is FUNdamental yo. I agree the new stuff hasn't been the best. The reissue muffs sound great though. Anyway not trying to argue on the internet really. Already spent too much energy on this for my tastes haha, :hug: :idk:
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby jrfox92 » Thu May 31, 2018 12:33 pm

I still stand by my statement (of...opinion).

Even the old stuff wasn't "wow, my entire outlook on playing guitar has changed" with the exception of like, the 16SDD or HOG.
I mean, I'm not saying they're stuff is bad, just fairly typical pedal stuff that can and has been exceeded (especially quality-wise) by other companies and certainly as technology has progressed.
But, yeah, I was mostly referring to their work once the XO era started (I tend to generalize when I talk about anything, so :idk: ). I get that big box EHX was practically uncontested outside of rack effects, but even then there were companies that, imo, seriously rivaled their work like Mu-Tron or Boss/Roland. But that's all tastes, too.
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