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Re: PLL THREAD: NEW PLL's, WOLF EYES, AND COLD BREW GREEN TE

Postby fuzzonaut » Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:24 am

$harkToootth wrote:this is the PURPLL waiting room

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Re: PLL THREAD: NEW PLL's, WOLF EYES, AND COLD BREW GREEN TE

Postby $harkToootth » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:16 am

I got some green tea samplers coming in the mail today (per Amazon one day shipping). I will cold brew and let everyone know. I also ordered John Olson's book (WOLF EYES) LIFE IS A RIP OFF.
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Re: PLL THREAD: NEW PLL's, WOLF EYES, AND COLD BREW GREEN TE

Postby chrisdermo » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:41 am

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Re: PLL THREAD: NEW PLL's, WOLF EYES, AND COLD BREW GREEN TE

Postby multi_s » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:19 am

i was looking at the harmonic decoder and listening to demos of it a few months ago. i don't think its actually a pll even though is advertised as one? It seems more like a ring mod, but using the canonical 4046 "pll" chip, but it just use the xor gate a a multiplier to get the ring mod effect and the switch adds some sort of envelope follower to the carrier/vco maybe?. but i have never used one in person to confirm, but even some of the youtube clips where they are showing the waveforms ona DAW, it really does not look (or sound) like a pll to me. Have you tried one? thoughts? im curious about it, if anyone has used one etc...
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Re: PLL THREAD: NEW PLL's, WOLF EYES, AND COLD BREW GREEN TE

Postby Chankgeez » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:38 am

multi_s wrote:i was looking at the harmonic decoder and listening to demos of it a few months ago. i don't think its actually a pll even though is advertised as one? It seems more like a ring mod, but using the canonical 4046 "pll" chip, but it just use the xor gate a a multiplier to get the ring mod effect and the switch adds some sort of envelope follower to the carrier/vco maybe?. but i have never used one in person to confirm, but even some of the youtube clips where they are showing the waveforms ona DAW, it really does not look (or sound) like a pll to me. Have you tried one? thoughts? im curious about it, if anyone has used one etc...


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Re: PLL THREAD: NEW PLL's, WOLF EYES, AND COLD BREW GREEN TE

Postby chrisdermo » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:20 am

multi_s wrote:i was looking at the harmonic decoder and listening to demos of it a few months ago. i don't think its actually a pll even though is advertised as one? It seems more like a ring mod, but using the canonical 4046 "pll" chip, but it just use the xor gate a a multiplier to get the ring mod effect and the switch adds some sort of envelope follower to the carrier/vco maybe?. but i have never used one in person to confirm, but even some of the youtube clips where they are showing the waveforms ona DAW, it really does not look (or sound) like a pll to me. Have you tried one? thoughts? im curious about it, if anyone has used one etc...


I had one, it sounded like garbage, couldn't get rid of it quick enough. It didn't track like a 'standard' PLL, or sound like one. Yeah it was pretty much a square wave ring mod in sound. The enveloping capabilities were pretty much on or off, despite having a knob for amount.
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Re: PLL THREAD: NEW PLL's, WOLF EYES, AND COLD BREW GREEN TE

Postby elevenstrings » Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:03 pm

As far as how it sounds and acts, the Bananana Nirvanana is very likely some kind of super stripped down PLL.
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Re: PLL THREAD: NEW PLL's, WOLF EYES, AND COLD BREW GREEN TE

Postby multi_s » Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:11 pm

elevenstrings wrote:As far as how it sounds and acts, the Bananana Nirvanana is very likely some kind of super stripped down PLL.


ya i checked out his one too after you mentioned it at NAMM. it looks like a stripped circuit as you said and has no divider output sort of thing? a sequenced multiplier section though you can change some parameters of.... it sounds pretty nice on the demos i watches though. you can see some photos of the pcb on their instagram i think, but i did not look too closely.
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Re: PLL THREAD: NEW PLL's, WOLF EYES, AND COLD BREW GREEN TE

Postby $harkToootth » Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:17 pm

Scott, for the arpegiator of PURPLL, did you use the circuit from the NASA ATTRIBUTE?
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Re: PLL THREAD: NEW PLL's, WOLF EYES, AND COLD BREW GREEN TE

Postby multi_s » Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:23 pm

$harkToootth wrote:Scott, for the arpegiator of PURPLL, did you use the circuit from the NASA ATTRIBUTE?


no it achieve arp just by modulating the multiplier and divider circuits directly.
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Re: PLL THREAD: NEW PLL's, WOLF EYES, AND COLD BREW GREEN TE

Postby $harkToootth » Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:54 pm

Got it. Thank you!
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Re: PLL THREAD: NEW PLL's, WOLF EYES, AND COLD BREW GREEN TE

Postby Antlerface » Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:45 pm

multi_s wrote:
$harkToootth wrote:Scott, for the arpegiator of PURPLL, did you use the circuit from the NASA ATTRIBUTE?


no it achieve arp just by modulating the multiplier and divider circuits directly.



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Re: PLL THREAD: NEW PLL's, WOLF EYES, AND COLD BREW GREEN TE

Postby $harkToootth » Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:56 pm

I think I understand why I am drawn to this pedal (from demos and in theory) more than the others. This does not have a dedicated Fuzz knob. I think the other PLLs lose some interesting harmonics with over the top Fuzz.
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Re: PLL THREAD: NEW PLL's, WOLF EYES, AND COLD BREW GREEN TE

Postby Antlerface » Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:34 pm

Also probably because it looks fucking sickkkkk
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Re: PLL THREAD: NEW PLL's, WOLF EYES, AND COLD BREW GREEN TE

Postby $harkToootth » Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:14 pm

Fitting I bought your 4046m...
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