Red Panda Tensor



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Re: Red Panda Tensor

Postby codetocontra » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:01 am

whoismarykelly wrote:Blowing anything out of the water is unlikely in this genre of pedals anyway because every single pedal does things differently. Even the various stutter pedals on the market operate differently, dump their buffer differently, have different levels of control, and aim to cover different ground. Its not like these are tube screamer variants.


I was asking myself why am I chasing glitch pedals and how, if it all, this is different than anyone chasing magical fuzz variants or transparent overdrives. I came to the conclusion that I construct a weird orchestra with these pedals, they can all function at the same time either separately or relating to each other, and often become instruments on their own. Combining multiple varieties exponentially expands possibilities for space travel. You don't often stack as many fuzz pedals with good results, and at some point a gain pedal is just another gain pedal.

Excellent points about availability and ease of use. CT5 was pretty unfriendly in my hands for a while.
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Re: Red Panda Tensor

Postby UglyCasanova » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:15 am

whoismarykelly wrote:Blowing anything out of the water is unlikely in this genre of pedals anyway because every single pedal does things differently.

Someone didn't read this part

UglyCasanova wrote:But I guess that depends on opinions and subjectivity and stuff like that. :lol:


But, yes, I understand your sentiment. I was just (badly) trying to convey my experience of having played with this new pedal and then seeing a new demo of the Tensor, a pedal I was (and to some degree still is) very much hyped for ever since it was first announced. Time moves fast in the time stretching business (no pun intended), and I guess I just felt more excited about it 9 months ago than what I do now, having had some more experience with pedals and especially a pedal that I feel does similar things to this but (as far as I can tell) so much more. It was intended more like a public outburst of phenomenological experience than a claim, even though it probably read more like a proclamation, which might have been too thin of a line to walk at 2am. Does that make more sense? I hope so. :facepalm: :lol:

I agree with what you wrote though. If you know me, you know I would never protest against having more glitchy pedals to choose from. :cool:

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Re: Red Panda Tensor

Postby ognoy » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:22 am

UglyCasanova wrote:There's also a pedal coming out early next year that will (in my opinion, which is based on currently testing the prototype), blow this thing out of the water. But I guess that depends on opinions and subjectivity and stuff like that. :lol:

/secrets


As another prototype tester of the same pedal I can stand behind this message.

#hype
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Re: Red Panda Tensor

Postby Pladask » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:13 am

Looking forward to more details on this thing! The set of available effects is very impressive considering there is no program selection (dynamic morphing between different effects) apart from those toggle switches, but the way I see them they are more like sub-functions (?) Also looks like they've moved away from the Spin FV-1 platform for this seeing the set of parameters and the increased delay buffer length.

*smily eating popcorn* (I'm lazy)
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Re: Red Panda Tensor

Postby raj007 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:31 am

whoismarykelly wrote:A big part of the Tensor appeal is also that its a Red Panda pedal so it will be readily available from tons of dealers. No waiting for an email to come on a random day that something is up for sale in an edition of 12 that sells out in a minute. No putting your name on a list and waiting 8 months to pay $500 because of a lopsided exchange rate. The Tensor will just be available from shops and will do all the things people have been doing with multiple pedals before.


This is a big deal. The pedal itself looks super cool but the fact that it'll be readily available through various dealers is so huge.

The mystery pedal UC is talking about may be "better" but I highly doubt it'll have the distribution of Red Panda, which for me would make it less appealing.

I've waited through Piotr's list (Revolver). I've woken up at like 6am to try and get a DRolo pedal and missed out because I was like 30 seconds too late. Same with Montreal Assembly....While these pedals are certainly "worth the wait", it doesn't make it any less tiresome ...Tensor's wide availability is a game changer.
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Re: Red Panda Tensor

Postby whoismarykelly » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:28 pm

raj007 wrote:
whoismarykelly wrote:A big part of the Tensor appeal is also that its a Red Panda pedal so it will be readily available from tons of dealers. No waiting for an email to come on a random day that something is up for sale in an edition of 12 that sells out in a minute. No putting your name on a list and waiting 8 months to pay $500 because of a lopsided exchange rate. The Tensor will just be available from shops and will do all the things people have been doing with multiple pedals before.


This is a big deal. The pedal itself looks super cool but the fact that it'll be readily available through various dealers is so huge.

The mystery pedal UC is talking about may be "better" but I highly doubt it'll have the distribution of Red Panda, which for me would make it less appealing.

I've waited through Piotr's list (Revolver). I've woken up at like 6am to try and get a DRolo pedal and missed out because I was like 30 seconds too late. Same with Montreal Assembly....While these pedals are certainly "worth the wait", it doesn't make it any less tiresome ...Tensor's wide availability is a game changer.


Was thinking about this a bit more - until now the only readily-available glitch/stutter pedal has been the hold mode on Boss delays. In all this time since the 90s nothing else has come along that has become readily available and affordable. And then there is all the other stuff the Tensor does. I think there is likely to be an explosion of artists using these sounds because they won't be coming from obscure and extremely expensive boxes any more. 2018 is going to be the year of glitch :!!!:
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Re: Red Panda Tensor

Postby elevenstrings » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:34 pm

Though, I agree with the availability of this pedal being a positive for a lot of people - but the high-ish price will probably keep a lot of people away, especially for the fact that I think that most average musicians still don't actually know what to do or how to utilize these kind of pedals, so that coupled with the price might make it a tough sell (though I hope I'm wrong).

Not to toot my horn or anything, but my last album is filled with mulitple revolvers, judder, possessed, raptio, superflutter, ct5, 856forzellersasn, and double mandala (with a generous dose of Miku), as we all know here stacking loopers and glitch pedals leads to very random, unpredictable (and difficult to recreate lol) results. (have a listen: https://jeanbaudin.bandcamp.com - #13, #17, #20, #23 are glitchiest, but there's lots of subtle glitches spread throughout)

From the video, the pedal seems quite different from what I heard from Winter NAMM, I'm digging the changes and I like the new enclosure/color scheme. I want one!
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Re: Red Panda Tensor

Postby Seance » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:35 pm

whoismarykelly wrote:Blowing anything out of the water is unlikely in this genre of pedals anyway because every single pedal does things differently. Even the various stutter pedals on the market operate differently, dump their buffer differently, have different levels of control, and aim to cover different ground. Its not like these are tube screamer variants.


The glitch/stutter/delay-samplehold waters are somewhat of a series of puddles and are
a total backwater compared to the vast ocean of distortion and overdrive pedals fed by
the vast tributaries of the global guitar-playing mainstream.

And yet... "blowing anything out of the water" is difficult since that brackish puddles of
glitch-stutter-fuckery are engaged with on the molecular level. Musicians microscope right
into the droplets they capture on a glass slide, some are lucky enough to have secured a
small petri dish full of such effects... but the glitch-waters are diffuse and located in small
protected estuaries and local habitats spread out over a vast distance. Hard to get a
"groundswell" of support for such a widely dispersed, specific phenomenon.

Which is somewhat like the situation with the majority of effect pedals pre-internet.
Back in the day you played what you could stumble across. The wait-lists and small-batch
numbers in glitch-stutter world sort of artificially recreate that kind of pedal ecosystem.

More growth in more directions on a wider scale might increase evolutionary steps... but
might also lead to more homogeneity as the sonic koalas and duckbill platypuses of micro-climates
are overrun by Rats and swaddled in the smallpox blankets of Tubescreamer variants.

We shall see.
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Re: Red Panda Tensor

Postby whoismarykelly » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:47 pm

That was poetic

I always welcome more effects in this genre as they're way more fun and dynamic than almost any other effect.
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Re: Red Panda Tensor

Postby Paul_C » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:05 pm

Seance wrote:sonic koalas




Next band name sorted.
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Re: Red Panda Tensor

Postby fuzzisokiguess » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:50 pm

Seance wrote:might also lead to more homogeneity as the sonic koalas and duckbill platypuses of micro-climates are overrun by Rats and swaddled in the smallpox blankets of Tubescreamer variants.

We shall see.
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Will only say what Seance said, but worse, and not to put too fine a evolutionary point on it, but here goes:

the first one is a unicorn, and that's enough. It blows the mind, &c. Howling fantods. But the second one, and everyone thereafter, is just a horse with a horn and wings and now it's about the details: is the dsp fs-1? Etc.

We've all see the unicorns, and now we get to watch the evolution of the stutter/S&H/glitch (I'd add the 4046 here as well) genus and species in real-time. This will lead to more pedals- some great, some good, some Darwinian road kill. Bottom line is it's a good time to alive and stomping.
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Re: Red Panda Tensor

Postby Seance » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:01 pm

fuzzisokiguess wrote:
Seance wrote:might also lead to more homogeneity as the sonic koalas and duckbill platypuses of micro-climates are overrun by Rats and swaddled in the smallpox blankets of Tubescreamer variants.

We shall see.
:cool:


Late entry for '17 MLP (Most Loquatuous Post)

I've also been accused of receiving the MVP every year for the Most Verbose Post.
As well as the MPP (Most Pedantic Post) and the MPPP (Most Post-Post Post).
;)

Paul_C wrote:
Seance wrote:sonic koalas




Next band name sorted.

:thumb:
Slow-rolling and chewing leaf since 2017... it's the Sonic Koalas.
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Re: Red Panda Tensor

Postby oldangelmidnight » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:09 pm

Pladask wrote:Looking forward to more details on this thing! The set of available effects is very impressive considering there is no program selection (dynamic morphing between different effects) apart from those toggle switches, but the way I see them they are more like sub-functions (?) Also looks like they've moved away from the Spin FV-1 platform for this seeing the set of parameters and the increased delay buffer length.

*smily eating popcorn* (I'm lazy)

The pitch shift definitely sounds like the same FV-1 style we're used to.
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Re: Red Panda Tensor

Postby Aquietcabin1978 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:17 pm

Looks very cool and may have reignited my GAS for pedals in general. Went from having two Judders, two CT5's , a possessed, etc to basically just an a RV2 and a GL100. Might be a good time to start rebuilding my pedalboard.
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Re: Red Panda Tensor

Postby fuzzisokiguess » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:43 pm

Seance wrote:I've also been accused of receiving the MVP every year for the Most Verbose Post.
As well as the MPP (Most Pedantic Post) and the MPPP (Most Post-Post Post).
;):


Haha! Meant no offense (so much so that I misspelled the word loquacious ;)), and I look forward to you getting a tensor (and every other new glitch/stutter pedal out there) and making more stop action vids! :thumbs up: ; :cloud sharting rainbows:
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