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The Mad Titan wrote:I have one of his Outsider Systech Harmonic Energizer clones. It's not near as extreme as the original I had, but it's a fantastic sound sculpting tool nonetheless. I use it for adding the booty to my heavy tones. It's paired usually with either my amp's distortion, an OC44 Keeley Java, or both.
If it had a little bit more range and a lot more output it would be closer to my original, which could slam the front end of an amp so hard it would start self-oscillating or make a guitar sound like a bass without dropping the pitch by amplifying the sub-harmonics so much.
As you can tell I'm a bit torn. On it's own the Outsider is an awesome pedal, but I miss tuning feedback for infinite sustain, the whale song and sci-fi noises. Man that with my phaser, octave down, and stereo trem. I miss dem feelz.
Great for doom and straight up EQ/overdrive, not so much for deranged experimental noise.
LonewolfFX wrote:Thanks for the kind words guys, means a ton to me. @themadtitan, Yea the decision to make it less extreme was mine. The original I have is so noisy I couldnt well make it that noisy and have anyone like it I felt like so I scaled it back.
the OG unit was in fact pushing the fabled 50+DB, while the outsider pushes 35-38DB
I am about to have all the final revisions done on the matching INSIDER very soon, so check that out when its ready.
Stoked you dudes all dig the pedals.
Joe
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The Mad Titan wrote:LonewolfFX wrote:Thanks for the kind words guys, means a ton to me. @themadtitan, Yea the decision to make it less extreme was mine. The original I have is so noisy I couldnt well make it that noisy and have anyone like it I felt like so I scaled it back.
the OG unit was in fact pushing the fabled 50+DB, while the outsider pushes 35-38DB
I am about to have all the final revisions done on the matching INSIDER very soon, so check that out when its ready.
Stoked you dudes all dig the pedals.
Joe
Awesome to hear. Is the insider another EQ/filter type?
Olin wrote:Been using his Plague Rat for a while now and just don't really see myself going for any other Rat clones in the future. Seen some vague complaints about him before but the very few times I've had to deal with him he's been polite, courteous and helpful. Been wanting to try out a LHW for a while now but just can't bring myself to suffer through the wait time!
LonewolfFX wrote:The Mad Titan wrote:I have one of his Outsider Systech Harmonic Energizer clones. It's not near as extreme as the original I had, but it's a fantastic sound sculpting tool nonetheless. I use it for adding the booty to my heavy tones. It's paired usually with either my amp's distortion, an OC44 Keeley Java, or both.
If it had a little bit more range and a lot more output it would be closer to my original, which could slam the front end of an amp so hard it would start self-oscillating or make a guitar sound like a bass without dropping the pitch by amplifying the sub-harmonics so much.
As you can tell I'm a bit torn. On it's own the Outsider is an awesome pedal, but I miss tuning feedback for infinite sustain, the whale song and sci-fi noises. Man that with my phaser, octave down, and stereo trem. I miss dem feelz.
Great for doom and straight up EQ/overdrive, not so much for deranged experimental noise.
If you want, I CAN mod that thing to be as insane as your original. Its a few value changes.
Dweezil Zappa has been using the outsider and says he likes the fact its lower noise and less insane for live applications.
The Mad Titan wrote:LonewolfFX wrote:The Mad Titan wrote:I have one of his Outsider Systech Harmonic Energizer clones. It's not near as extreme as the original I had, but it's a fantastic sound sculpting tool nonetheless. I use it for adding the booty to my heavy tones. It's paired usually with either my amp's distortion, an OC44 Keeley Java, or both.
If it had a little bit more range and a lot more output it would be closer to my original, which could slam the front end of an amp so hard it would start self-oscillating or make a guitar sound like a bass without dropping the pitch by amplifying the sub-harmonics so much.
As you can tell I'm a bit torn. On it's own the Outsider is an awesome pedal, but I miss tuning feedback for infinite sustain, the whale song and sci-fi noises. Man that with my phaser, octave down, and stereo trem. I miss dem feelz.
Great for doom and straight up EQ/overdrive, not so much for deranged experimental noise.
If you want, I CAN mod that thing to be as insane as your original. Its a few value changes.
Dweezil Zappa has been using the outsider and says he likes the fact its lower noise and less insane for live applications.
F-YEAH! I totally miss my original, it's just that I already have a PT Pro filled up, and really needed room to add a few pedals. As you know the original is massive. Tell me what to do mang, and it'll be on its way to you.
Have you seen the Joe Gore vid of the clone he built? That's what I need it to be able to do; the faux bass lines, enough output to coax any note into infinite cascading sustain that builds up to howling moterboating oscillations, edgy raspy insane wah tones with enough harmonic content to sizzle the top layer off the sun, oh and enough lowend subharmonic content to make it sound like Matt Pike raped Jus Oborn when I plug in my LP tuned to C and drive it through some strangled tubes and germanium. Oh, man I miss dem dayz.
I'm glad you brought up Dweezil. I should have mentioned earlier in the thread that I talked with him after the ZPZ show at Jannus Landing, and he had nothing but kind words for you and the pedal.
D.o.S. wrote:So you built your HM-2 clone all on your own with no outside help from anyone right?
Olin wrote:Been using his Plague Rat for a while now and just don't really see myself going for any other Rat clones in the future. Seen some vague complaints about him before but the very few times I've had to deal with him he's been polite, courteous and helpful. Been wanting to try out a LHW for a while now but just can't bring myself to suffer through the wait time!
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