Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses



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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Tue May 29, 2018 3:00 pm

Jamie Stillman, President of EQD, on ring mods from his recent reddit AMA:

earthdevice wrote:I’ve worked on several ideas for a ring modulator but none have landed. The maestro ring modulator is my favorite and it’s a tough one to beat. If I could make something with that sound but more options I’d be happy. Until that happens, I’ll keep trying.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby jrfox92 » Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:01 pm

Since I always forget:

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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:20 pm

Good bump. :thumb:

I almost posted this yesterday (only mildly ring mod related, but pretty nice anyway):



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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Dandolin » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:37 am

Chankgeez wrote:Jamie Stillman, President of EQD, on ring mods from his recent reddit AMA:

earthdevice wrote:I’ve worked on several ideas for a ring modulator but none have landed. The maestro ring modulator is my favorite and it’s a tough one to beat. If I could make something with that sound but more options I’d be happy. Until that happens, I’ll keep trying.


I'd hit dat.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby retinal orbita » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:51 am

jrfox92 wrote:


Man shit I would love to have that Mantic one. I think if they ever do another run I would buy one. Expression pedal option!!!

Really thinking about flipping a few pedals and gettzing a Randy’s Revenge. It sings it’s siren song to me every night, calling me to its cranky robot arms.....
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:19 am

You should definitely get a Randy's Revenge! :thumb:

I'd get a Gonker too (especially if it had purple knobs like that)! :love:

Dandolin wrote:
Chankgeez wrote:Jamie Stillman, President of EQD, on ring mods from his recent reddit AMA:

earthdevice wrote:I’ve worked on several ideas for a ring modulator but none have landed. The maestro ring modulator is my favorite and it’s a tough one to beat. If I could make something with that sound but more options I’d be happy. Until that happens, I’ll keep trying.


I'd hit dat.


Me too! :!!!: :snax:
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:25 am

"You can't copyright circuits really." - Ed Sanner …………….0.............
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby digi2t » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:41 am

Chankgeez wrote:Check out that purple wire:


Considering that purple is a composite of two different wavelength colors (red and blue), it only stands to reason that it would be advantageously used in a ring modulator.

Seeing as how a ring modulator is "a signal-processing function, an implementation of frequency mixing, performed by multiplying two signals, where one is typically a sine wave or another simple waveform, and the other is the signal to be modulated."

Hence, the purple colored wire creates a sympathetic environment for the frequencies to work within.

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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby BetterOffShred » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:34 am

I am curious if any other ring mods use a XR2206 signal generator for the carrier.. I know the Echo Dream 2 uses one for the modulation LFO .. I think I have a few laying around ..

Yeah the wave combination for purple does seem like it would lend to enhanced signal multiplication.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby crochambeau » Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:09 pm

Purple occurs where infra-red and ultra-violet meet.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:13 pm

So, is purple the sum and difference of red and blue wavelengths? :lol: :idk: :D
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby digi2t » Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:54 pm

crochambeau wrote:Purple occurs where infra-red and ultra-violet meet.


That would be impossible, since both are out of the visible spectrum.

Chankgeez wrote:So, is purple the sum and difference of red and blue wavelengths? :lol: :idk: :D


More so the sum, though "sum" isn't the term used.

Purple is a color intermediate between blue and red.[1][2] It is similar to violet, but unlike violet, which is a spectral color with its own wavelength on the visible spectrum of light, purple is a composite color made by combining red and blue.


That would make it additive.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby crochambeau » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:31 pm

digi2t wrote:
crochambeau wrote:Purple occurs where infra-red and ultra-violet meet.


That would be impossible, since both are out of the visible spectrum.



Hahaha, but that's the point. It folds the two ends of the spectrum into the color wheel we know and love. That the two mentioned colors are on frequencies outside of our perception means NOTHING to a balanced modulator. ;)
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:07 pm

"You can't copyright circuits really." - Ed Sanner …………….0.............
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Dandolin » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:14 am

Ha--just came here to post this (wasting too much time listening to cuatro and cavaquinho videos today). Wait. hmmmm.....
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