Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses



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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby lordgalvar » Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:39 pm

Haha, that's just the guy that came up when I searched for Jamaican ring modulator. Tons of videos with him and that phone.

As did this:
https://amp.theguardian.com/music/2009/ ... modulators
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:41 pm

It's a nice prop.

I think that article may've come up earlier in the thread. :idk:
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Inconuucl » Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:47 pm

I wonder, would it be possible to have a ringmod whose modulator is a delayed version of the carrier? I'm very interested to see how that would sound, probably pretty glitchy. Probably even have a pitch shift to the modulator signal... :drool:
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Inconuucl » Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:19 pm

Update on last post: patched my idea up on Audulus and had a shit ton of fun playing with it.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby crochambeau » Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:41 pm

Yeah, this is why it should be imperative that anything calling itself a ring modulator have a carrier input option.

If the device does not allow one recorded conversation to modulate another recorded conversation (or hey, even dogs barking to the sound of goats) it fails to realize its potential.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby jrfox92 » Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:50 pm

lordgalvar wrote:Death by Audio Crash Modulator
Death by Audio Space Ring
    -TYPE: Diode Ring

Bumping this post because I've been working on it: pretty sure the Crash Modulator uses a diode ring with an NE566 oscillator acting as input modulation (kinda like how the Space Ring uses an LM567). :snax:
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:51 pm

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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:23 am

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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:49 pm

There's ring mods in them there hills:

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https://reverb.com/item/6262579-erica-s ... 2017-black

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https://reverb.com/item/6108794-mode-ma ... 016-silver

Don't know anything about 'em, but there they are. :snax:

Also, I don't know if there's ring mod on this. If there isn't, there should be:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMHRzni-s3w
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Mosfed » Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:06 pm

Probably the effect I have the hardest time using in a band setting. Great for bleeps and bloops at home but I struggle live. Once I got my MF-ring to do the coolest sytar sound - never found it again.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Eric! » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:00 am

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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby paulandpaul » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:26 am

I recently sold off my trusty Ring Thing for a Randy's Revenge. It's the most usable, musical, and easy to dial in ring mod I've ever used. That said, there's carrier bleed, no question about it. Luckily, I use ring modulation in a pretty subtle way, so it's not a huge deal, but I'm a little disappointing about the bleed and it will likely cause me to go back to a Mooger at some point. I emailed fairfield about this about a week ago and got no response. Wondering if it's an inevitability with this pedal or if I got a clunky one.

Anyway, aside from that issue, it's a beautiful sounding pedal.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby BetterOffShred » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:11 am

Mosfed wrote:Probably the effect I have the hardest time using in a band setting. Great for bleeps and bloops at home but I struggle live. Once I got my MF-ring to do the coolest sytar sound - never found it again.

I built a "Wolf Bagger" DIY pedal a while back, and messed with it forever to get the carrier bleed minimal, and then played with it for about a week fairly heavily, and I had a similar experience. I found all kinds of nutty shit in there, and made "mental notes" to myself on the frequency and blend positions, but then never was able to duplicate them again. I really actually liked that pedal for kind of a subtle blend option, but I doubt I'd be able to use it in a band. Obviously a shadow of a real Ring Mod, but the Dan Armstrong Green Ringer however, I have used with success in numerous applications :joy:
I am interested in building the "King Corruptor" from Fredrik at Parasit studios I believe. That one has neat stuff happening for a DIY project.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby lordgalvar » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:30 pm

paulandpaul wrote:I recently sold off my trusty Ring Thing for a Randy's Revenge. It's the most usable, musical, and easy to dial in ring mod I've ever used. That said, there's carrier bleed, no question about it. Luckily, I use ring modulation in a pretty subtle way, so it's not a huge deal, but I'm a little disappointing about the bleed and it will likely cause me to go back to a Mooger at some point. I emailed fairfield about this about a week ago and got no response. Wondering if it's an inevitability with this pedal or if I got a clunky one.

Anyway, aside from that issue, it's a beautiful sounding pedal.


Try and level match your guitar signal with a preamp. Could also be the blend bypassing some carrier or just kinda hoping a trace. Haven't noticed any significant bleed on my RR though. Could be the IC, but I doubt it. I always expect some level of I'm balance...because perfectly balancing and matching stuff is never going to work perfectly.

Sitar sounds. Generally I tune to the open note or string for a kinda synth harmonically related tone. Then drone that out and hit notes that are harmonically related (like 5ths and stuff). The oscillator on the pedals drifts a bit and has a wide range to dial in on the imprecise knob. Best to retune the guitar and carrier frequency each time....the slightest variance in intonation or .2 hz can throw things off.

A bit of bleed/hotter carrier can help sustain the note longer sometimes too. Change the amplitude of the instrument to let the carrier kind of shine though and to manipulate what the ear picks out easier.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:47 am

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