Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses



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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby retinal orbita » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:53 pm

The big and small Moog's both have mix controls, even the GONK has one!

IMO now that I own both, you could do really well with the smaller Moog as a basic but incredible entry point. Mix, tone and frequency are just perfect for a no frill ring mod. The bigger one has a ton of amazing features the little guy can't do but for the basics it's a total bang for your buck.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:19 pm

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It is on my mind to start attempting to emulate the miniaturization trend that kicked off in the 1980s, but some stuff will remain larger due to interface.. I expect the Polybius will fall into that class. Offering more compact versions of builds is definitely a blip on my radar.

I plan on seeing how small I can build a Monobius once I am all caught up, the PCB is only 3x3.75 inches - transformer height does offer some interference points though.


No worries on my part. On a lot of those small pedals the knobs are a little too close for comfort for me.

I'd gladly sacrifice not having a pedal in a small enclosure if all the knobs don't move when I try to adjust just one of 'em. :D

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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby crochambeau » Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:07 pm

Chankgeez wrote:I'd gladly sacrifice not having a pedal in a small enclosure if all the knobs don't move when I try to adjust just one of 'em. :D

Small is beautiful, but only when it makes sense. #appropriatetechnology(andallthatgoodstuff)


Yeah, I would not go crazy with it. I'm in the fat finger crowd so anything I design has to meet a baseline level of ergonomic operation, a friend showed me a module they purchased recently and the fucking thing only had the pot shaft to grab as the spacing was so tight fitting a knob would have been impossible. That's too much density in my opinion.

I'm also not planning on shrinking the standard builds, but exploring the possibility of being able to offer optional enclosures to the space conscientious.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:17 pm

:thumb: Options are always welcome.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:31 pm

"You can't copyright circuits really." - Ed Sanner …………….0.............
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Dandolin » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:44 pm

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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:00 pm

:thumb: Also, just found this lil' document: http://electro-music.com/forum/phpbb-fi ... od_140.pdf
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:20 pm

… and dminner's sellin' this DBA clone, hit him up here for a better deal?:

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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby friendship » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:33 pm

Chankgeez wrote::thumb: Also, just found this lil' document: http://electro-music.com/forum/phpbb-fi ... od_140.pdf


Cool read. Very interesting about why LFO bleed is so common on ring mods that have them.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:36 am

:thumb: You can thank Jon Appleton for that. I was looking for info on his use of ring mods and, apparently, he authored a book cited in that paper.

Also, this appeared on Reverb today:

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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Dandolin » Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:48 am

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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:10 pm

"You can't copyright circuits really." - Ed Sanner …………….0.............
"The effects market was really nothing more than a bunch of beggars and thieves, all building off one another's work." - Dan Armstrong…...........................…
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby colossus » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:59 pm

Gonkulators for $35 at eBay. Just got one for my drum machine!
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:38 pm

^ Yeah, that's a bonus for all. ^ :thumb:

Also, apparently, Matt Pike's Mold Spore:

https://reverb.com/item/7496286-matt-pi ... -modulator

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… and, plus, here's some collector-grade Reinhart HAXage:

https://reverb.com/item/8812024-dwarfcr ... ness-pedal

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