Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the modulator masses



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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby ck3 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:04 am

Thanks for the info, Lordgalvar and Friendship. I will probably pick up a noise gate at some point and plan to inquire about an internal trimmer.

The Gonkulator oscillation noise is more audible with higher gain and frequencies, though still present at lower frequencies and with the gain knob at 0. I use isolated DC power and quality cables, am currently powering the Gonkulator with a battery, and experienced the same problem with the pedal isolated. The noise is faint for the most part, but stil annoying.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby crochambeau » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:36 am

ck3 wrote:I use isolated DC power and quality cables, am currently powering the Gonkulator with a battery, and experienced the same problem with the pedal isolated. The noise is faint for the most part, but stil annoying.


Carrier bleed is independent of power supply, what you are hearing is a slight mis-match in the level of in two signals that would otherwise cancel each other out completely. Your power rails will have zero bearing on this feature.

This claims to be a Gonkulator schematic:

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It does depict a couple trims near the MC1496 that you can twiddle, but since they probably trim out carrier as best they can at the factory other settings might just make things worse.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby shikawkee » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:44 am

Chankgeez wrote:P-Dizzle's sellin' some of this:

https://reverb.com/item/9160145-copilot ... ustom-mods

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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:24 pm

Yeah, I thought it was an attractive price too.

More djangosfire frequency shiftin':



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h3jZgEF7Pc
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:12 pm

psychic vampire. wrote:The important take away from this thread: Taoism and Ring Modulators go together?
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby jrfox92 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:12 am

For a second I was thinking, "damn it, I just bought one", but it was $190 shipped from ILF peeps and it's a Big Briar model, so :)* .
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:37 pm

Pigtronix Ringmaster?

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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Dandolin » Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:11 pm

please i don't think I can take anymore teddy kumpel please
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Chankgeez » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:41 pm

New HAX:

aen wrote:SO FUCKING GLAD PIGTRONIX IS LAUNCHING A RING MOD AT THE SAME TIME WE ARE. IT EVEN APPEARS TO HAVE AN ENVELOPE FOLLOWER AS OURS DOES. REALLY FEELING HAPPY RIGHT NOW

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At least ours has filter modes.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby BetterOffShred » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:53 pm

Honestly I think a deluxe ring modulator might be my best actual gear purchase. I want magic in a box.. XX size with hella options.. And the more it sounds like a cartoon robot gargling gravel the better.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby worra » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:16 pm

Outer Rings looks rad, demos when?
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby ognoy » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:09 am

I have 2 ring mods on my board right now. A ZVex Ringtone and the RM in the Pladask FORM. Both sound pretty cool. The Ringtone has some carrier bleed though, som that one might lose its place on the board to a ZVex Lofi Loop Junky.
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby retinal orbita » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:18 am

worra wrote:Outer Rings looks rad, demos when?


Seriously right I mean I already impulse bought it like a crazy person but still demos would be tight while I'm waiting for it to ship
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby Jwar » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:43 pm

Chankgeez wrote:Pigtronix Ringmaster?

:snax:


Listened to the demo.

It sounds as bad as all the ring mods I've tried and heard....sooooooo....a winner?
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Re: Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the masses

Postby $harkToootth » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:49 pm

It sounded like a way more accessible ring mod to me. Not even really ring moddy more envelope filtery. I've come to enjoy the short comings of a ring modulator though. I'm sure there are a variety of applications as the people from pigtronix are engineering masterminds but I like my ring mods to be 1. Bell like klingz and klangz 2. More dissonant than Polish composers 3. Wyk'id foook'in acid m8.

EDIT: Now that I'm thinking about it...the perfect ring mod for the title of this thread :lol:
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